Collective2 hiked their fees - anywhere else to go?

I am quoting this from the link I provided earlier:



And we reached the question of longevity. How many of the current competitors will exist 1-2 years from now?

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Speaking of competitors, for a few weeks, on the top of this page, next to Software, there was another link called Subscription. It took to a service where for $400 to $800 per month you could follow some unknown system with no track record whatsoever. I couldn't freaking believe that Baron actually let such a sketchy company to advertise here, but I guess they are gone now...

The point of this is that there are competitors right in front of you guys...
I say there are none. No viable competition for them.
 
I designed a solid forex/futures strategy that I am currently running on Collective2:
https://collective2.com/details/106272060
Not sure if this is the right place for this, but I was curious to ask about your strategy. You say its a solid strategy, but when looking at the stats, a few things stand out.

I see you're taking profits of anywhere from about $10 to $40 or so. What concerns me is the drawdown that some of these trades have. Your most recent loss of $267 is a perfect example, but there are a good handful of trades that hit more than 0.50% drawdown. The dollar values for these are -$145, -$183, -$125, -$475, -$170, -$225, etc. Even though all of these trades ended up being closed for a profit, do you think its wise for your risk to be multiple times higher than your eventual reward? Maybe this is what you strategy is all about, but it seems very risky.
 
OK I confess, Matthew pays me 1 lollipop per post, but only if I don't call the posters stupid. I guess I won't get candy for this one...

Since I am not an employee, I can be rude to idiots, who don't understand business or unwilling to read fairly short and easy to comprehend explanations before they complain.

So let's do the math, dumbass. 240 to 400 is nowhere 200% raise, but let me get my calculator before I abuse you more.

[getting calculator]

OK, it sounds to me a 60% increase, which sounds a lot, or maybe the original service was too cheap. You decide. But as it was already mentioned, if you prepay, you can lock in the previous cheap listing fee, and technically forever. You just have to read English...

Now when you mentioned the word "monopoly" I stopped reading your word vomit, because you expressed your lack of knowledge in this type of business. As people with googling ability already know there are similar sites, so if you don't like C2, go and use another one.

So morons, read the fucking manual first, use google second, and if you still don't understand something, I am sure a nice C2 employee will explain it to you (well, maybe not the competitor's link).

But if your biggest problem is the messenger and not the facts, I can't help you.

Damn, I like candy and I just wasted one...

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Site search, because I like to help the handicapped:

https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/sites-similar-to-collective2.61509/
Please elitraders moderators since he confess that he is《just 》going to take a lollipop per post on c2 advertising please put on him a c2 logo. that would help to clarify with who we are talking on your website.
 
OK I confess, Matthew pays me 1 lollipop per post, but only if I don't call the posters stupid. I guess I won't get candy for this one...

Since I am not an employee, I can be rude to idiots, who don't understand business or unwilling to read fairly short and easy to comprehend explanations before they complain.

So let's do the math, dumbass. 240 to 400 is nowhere 200% raise, but let me get my calculator before I abuse you more.

[getting calculator]

OK, it sounds to me a 60% increase, which sounds a lot, or maybe the original service was too cheap. You decide. But as it was already mentioned, if you prepay, you can lock in the previous cheap listing fee, and technically forever. You just have to read English...

Now when you mentioned the word "monopoly" I stopped reading your word vomit, because you expressed your lack of knowledge in this type of business. As people with googling ability already know there are similar sites, so if you don't like C2, go and use another one.

So morons, read the fucking manual first, use google second, and if you still don't understand something, I am sure a nice C2 employee will explain it to you (well, maybe not the competitor's link).

But if your biggest problem is the messenger and not the facts, I can't help you.

Damn, I like candy and I just wasted one...

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Site search, because I like to help the handicapped:

https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/sites-similar-to-collective2.61509/

Quite a rude post from you.


So what is C2, and why should I "do it"? I think I read in a previous post that they have an annual fee of $400 to use their service?

Why would one do that when they can get a CME package for $180 per year? I briefed through the C2 site, and couldn't find on what they were really on about, probably because I am le tired and spent a quality 13 seconds of time on it. The flash and garishness turned me off. They are a prop firm?
 
Quite a rude post from you.

hahaha

Let me see, you are commenting in a thread where you don't even know what the discussion is about, and couldn't even figure out what the company does, after visiting its site, although they have clear explanations there.

Congratulations! I won't be rude to you, because we have to respect the mentally handicapped...

Listen people, if you think C2 is too expensive either move out of your mom's basement and get a real job, or go and use one of its competitors. That simple.

Last note: No sane subscriber would want to sign up for a vendor who can't afford a bit over a dollar per day for running his business. Just think about that...
 
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Quite a rude post from you.

He has not been only rude but he committed several abuses in his comments showing how much is disrespectful against other forum members using words like idiots, dumbass, morons, mentally handicapped and so on. If you feel that this is an inappropriate behavior to keep in a public forum, just report his comments to the moderators like I did.

At the end he just show us how low class is. And since he admitted that he gets an economical return from his inappropriate C2's sale pitch, his comments should be read with a grain of salt.
 
Not sure if this is the right place for this, but I was curious to ask about your strategy. You say its a solid strategy, but when looking at the stats, a few things stand out.

I see you're taking profits of anywhere from about $10 to $40 or so. What concerns me is the drawdown that some of these trades have. Your most recent loss of $267 is a perfect example, but there are a good handful of trades that hit more than 0.50% drawdown. The dollar values for these are -$145, -$183, -$125, -$475, -$170, -$225, etc. Even though all of these trades ended up being closed for a profit, do you think its wise for your risk to be multiple times higher than your eventual reward? Maybe this is what you strategy is all about, but it seems very risky.

Gotcha, thanks for the comments.
Indeed it is a scalping system. And based on my system those drawdowns will happen. Most trades profit anywhere from $20 to $90. Win rate should be very very high, which my hope is should offset large drawdowns such as what you listed above.

I'm surprised this thread got as much play as it did. My only other comments:

-Is $234 instead of $120 going to break the bank for me every 6 months? No, of course not. However I don't like paying more for anything. I cut coupons, wait for deals, etc. In my real job I am a value hunter on the buy-side.

-With regard to "locking-in" your price for years, someone else made the correct comment. What if my system blows up? Now I have paid for a system that has a 80% (god forbid) drawdown that no one in their right mind would ever invest in. But hey, at least I "locked in" the price, right?
 
-With regard to "locking-in" your price for years, someone else made the correct comment. What if my system blows up? Now I have paid for a system that has a 80% (god forbid) drawdown that no one in their right mind would ever invest in. But hey, at least I "locked in" the price, right?

Read The Fucking Manual, kiddo. Please. If you do so, you realize you can restart your system for a $30 fee (so you don't do it on every Tuesday) as many time as you wish. Earlier this option was only available for test systems. Your system record still will be visible for subscribers, just like before, when you had multiple or older systems and you blew one up. So don't do it often.

Seriously people, if you guys come here with elementary school attitude and reading ability, don't get surprised if we treat you like children...
 
Reset option is available under some of the new plans .When you extend your current old listing you won't be under the new plans , should ask c2 if it's possible to reset strategies under the old listing plan .
 
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