Cold fusion success: real or myth?

Quote from MGJ:

Tony Stark built a 10 cm cold fusion reactor using 1.2 grams of palladium, in a cave in Afghanistan. Why can't the well funded geniuses at CERN (link) or LANL (link), with all their billions, do the same?

Why do they always have to go to places like Afghanistan to do groundbreaking work, when there are plenty of places here in the good old USA?

Whenever I read of strange news coming out of places like Russia, South America, and the Far East, I always miss the ole World Weekly News, starring "Batboy."

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Quote from TraderZones:

that is very true. The purpose of science is for people to discover something interesting/new, publish in a quality journal + make an announcement. Then other reputable institutions/scientists CORROBORATE the work, following the techniques as detailed.

Absolutely. It's not the first time that someone comes out with the most important discovery in history, which at the end turns out to be hot air

Quote from TraderZones:


If uncorroborated, it is DISMISSED, as cold fusion was. It doesn't matter how loud or slick the original scientist's work appears. Without the needed proof, his work is considered unfounded or suspect. This is as it should be.

A distinguished South Korean science was disgraced recently, for basically falsifying his work - stem cell research or cloning I believe - his exact research escapes me at the moment.
yes, I remember:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/03/20/dog_cloner_sacked/

I think the guy showed up in tears on tv, or something like that. Very sad.

But the interesting thing of the cold fusion is that there is indeed an apparent production of energy, and as far as I know some processes are not clear yet. It's not completely wrong, but it's just not fusion. At the end, a breakthrough is not to exclude
 
Quote from andread:

But the interesting thing of the cold fusion is that there is indeed an apparent production of energy, and as far as I know some processes are not clear yet. It's not completely wrong, but it's just not fusion. At the end, a breakthrough is not to exclude [/B]

And as soon as there is corroboration, it becomes interesting. Doesn't always matter if we understand why something works.

For centuries, people would use moldy bread to alleviate infection and willow bark for pain. Didn't hurt people. Turns out it was a good antibiotic and the otehr contained a compound in aspirin.

How Egyptians used to practice dentistry and medicine:

http://virtuallibrary.stao.ca/elementary-data/elements/05NovPgs6-7elements.pdf
 
Quote from nokomisjeff:

Cold fusion is a myth, nothing more. All claims of cold fusion have been debunked as the experiments haven't replicable by other parties. I could go into the exact science of why it's a myth, but this is a trading forum.

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There have been over 2000 confirmed reports of anomolous heat recorded during cold fusion experiments by researchers all over the world.

To discount Cold fusion as a myth really reflects your total lack of understanding in relation to this subject.

We may not understand where the effect is coming from, but it is there. That much we do know.

Runningbear
 
Quote from maxpi:

Cold fusion research is not going to come out of the US. A law was passed that any university working on it would have their federal funds pulled!! Energy companies are not going to stand for such nonsense at the taxpayers expense :)

I'd be astounded if this is actually true. I know for a fact that NSF was funding cold fusion research as recently as a few years ago, but i haven't followed this research lately. I can tell you that many of those pursuing it are very highly trained and capable scientists of unquestionable integrity.

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/6.11/coldfusion.html?pg=1&topic=&topic_set=
 
Quote from Runningbear:

There have been over 2000 confirmed reports of anomolous heat recorded during cold fusion experiments by researchers all over the world.

To discount Cold fusion as a myth really reflects your total lack of understanding in relation to this subject.

We may not understand where the effect is coming from, but it is there. That much we do know.

Runningbear

Also, by now there have been enough credible reports of Helium being generated that it is highly likely that nuclear fusion is occurring, but apparently at very low yields.
 
Quote from MGJ:

Tony Stark built a 10 cm cold fusion reactor using 1.2 grams of palladium, in a cave in Afghanistan. Why can't the well funded geniuses at CERN (link) or LANL (link), with all their billions, do the same?

Was that the same cave Bin Laden was?
 
Quote from Runningbear:

There have been over 2000 confirmed reports of anomolous heat recorded during cold fusion experiments by researchers all over the world.

To discount Cold fusion as a myth really reflects your total lack of understanding in relation to this subject.

We may not understand where the effect is coming from, but it is there. That much we do know.

Runningbear

Having studied kinetics, and undergone very rigorous training in physical chemistry, I'm able to identify an exothermic reaction when I see one. When I was a measly PhD student, I thought cold fusion was possible, much like I thought I could deduce a Unified Field Theory. I also thought LaPlace was the holy grail for discerning future price movements. I was wrong, just like you are right now.

There is no such thing as cold fusion. The released energy of any fusion reaction(do the math) certainly couldn't be contained in a beaker, calorimeter, or other standard lab ware.
 
Quote from piezoe:

Also, by now there have been enough credible reports of Helium being generated that it is highly likely that nuclear fusion is occurring, but apparently at very low yields.

No there have not. There have been a lot of claims, sure. But none have been reproduced independently.

People can make mistakes 1000 different ways. But there is only one correct answer.
 
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