My "bet" is that cocoa is going to see a precipitous fall within the next 4 months.
You're probably right, but I was thinking the same when it was at 6500...
Right, @schizo ?

My "bet" is that cocoa is going to see a precipitous fall within the next 4 months.

Yeah, yeah, we all know what a vicious short squeeze is. But the writer states it's the "companies" not speculators. Now, why the heck would savvy companies like Nestle and Hersheys sell short when they KNOW there's a major shortage of cocoa crop (in another word, price can only go higher)? Don't you think they have field agents on the ground actually looking into everything? My verdict: That guy doesn't know what he's talking about and should be fired.Eventually, those companies are forced to close out their short positions at a loss — by buying contracts, sending the price even higher, and squeezing the other shorts even further.
Nestle and Hersheys would be long cocoa since they have to buy cocoa at a future date. It would be the farmers who are short.Yeah, yeah, we all know what a vicious short squeeze is. But the writer states it's the "companies" not speculators. Now, why the heck would savvy companies like Nestle and Hersheys sell short when they KNOW there's a major shortage of cocoa crop (in another word, price can only go higher)? Don't you think they have field agents on the ground actually looking into everything? My verdict: That guy doesn't know what he's talking about and should be fired.
But why??! If you were a farmer who clearly knows LESS SUPPLY = HIGHER PRICE, why the hell would you go short? If you didn't already know that, you shouldn't be a farmer (or shouldn't be trading).Nestle and Hersheys would be long cocoa since they have to buy cocoa at a future date. It would be the farmers who are short.
Because farmers, dirt poor ones especially, are concerned about the crop in the field. Not the crop(s) yet to be planted.But why??! If you were a farmer who clearly knows LESS SUPPLY = HIGHER PRICE, why the hell would you go short? If you didn't already know that, you shouldn't be a farmer (or shouldn't be trading).
We're talking about SHORT SELLING here, not about closing out your long position. Those dirt poor farmers might be forced to sell their long contracts out of economic necessity. Who knows? They need to send their kids to college or they have unforeseen medical expenses. But they would NEVER sell short knowing that there is an OBVIOUS shortage of crop. Otherwise, they're simply idiots.Because farmers, dirt poor ones especially, are concerned about the crop in the field. Not the crop(s) yet to be planted.
Farmers absolutely sell short - to lock in a price they need to ... to live anotherWe're talking about SHORT SELLING here, not about closing out your long position. Those dirt poor farmers might be forced to sell their long contracts out of economic necessity. Who knows? They need to send their kids to college or they have unforeseen medical expenses. But they would NEVER sell short knowing that there is an OBVIOUS shortage of crop. Otherwise, they're simply idiots.
Now if you are shorting as a speculator, well, then that would be a whole different matter.