CNN SUCKS!!!

The last chart shows more liberals watch MSNBC....


No. It does not.

It shows that the majority of MSNBC's viewers are liberal.

I don't know about recent data, but in past years the data has shown that - because Fox's actual number of viewers is so large that their minority of liberal viewers- talking real numbers not percentages was/is actually larger than MSNBC's majority.
 
First let's overlook the fact the Mercor took data from 2018...not surprised his research skills are outdated.


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Fox News was the only cable news network to see an increase year-over-year—in total day ratings, with an average audience of 1.35 million viewers—up 13% from the same period one year ago. MSNBC was second overall with 765,000 viewers (down 1%) and CNN finished third with 541,000 viewers (down 15%). 8-2-22

12% of 1,350,000 FOX Viewers Liberal = 162,000

37% of 765,000 MSNBC Viewers Liberal = 283,000

MSNBC has more liberal viewers based on the data.

FOX Viewers = 1,350,000

CNN/MSNBC Viewers = 1,306,000

Basically the audience is evenly split between liberal (CNN/MSNBC) and conservative (FOX) cable stations. FOX is ahead because they are the only real choice for conservative viewers. Liberal viewers are divded between two networks as well as the main news channels.

I would expect FOX to have a slight edge due to being able to represent all conservative and moderate viewpoints as well as be outrageous enough at times to enrage liberals who tune in via the Howard Stern Effect (so offended they tune in just to see what they will say next).

All 3 of them are crap to be honest....
 
First let's overlook the fact the Mercor took data from 2018...not surprised his research skills are outdated.


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Fox News was the only cable news network to see an increase year-over-year—in total day ratings, with an average audience of 1.35 million viewers—up 13% from the same period one year ago. MSNBC was second overall with 765,000 viewers (down 1%) and CNN finished third with 541,000 viewers (down 15%). 8-2-22

12% of 1,350,000 FOX Viewers Liberal = 162,000

37% of 765,000 MSNBC Viewers Liberal = 283,000

MSNBC has more liberal viewers based on the data.

FOX Viewers = 1,350,000

CNN/MSNBC Viewers = 1,306,000

Basically the audience is evenly split between liberal (CNN/MSNBC) and conservative (FOX) cable stations. FOX is ahead because they are the only real choice for conservative viewers. Liberal viewers are divded between two networks as well as the main news channels.

I would expect FOX to have a slight edge due to being able to represent all conservative and moderate viewpoints as well as be outrageous enough at times to enrage liberals who tune in via the Howard Stern Effect (so offended they tune in just to see what they will say next).

All 3 of them are crap to be honest....
Primetime number are much different
 
Primetime number are much different

Yep. I am okay with El Concho's analysis but I have seen a pantload of article headlines that cut the data different ways to give a different picture.

Some include different time slots, others different genres. Some look at dems vs. republicans, other look at self-identifying libs vs. conservatives even though many are independents. So on and so forth. And then there is the definition of "viewer" or "viewing". I flat out do not watch MSNBC but I see some CNN as part of channel surfing. So am I a CNN viewer?

Speaking of "prime time," as I said earlier Rachel Mad Cow has just left MSNBC and her replacement seems like a dud to me and she is on across from Laura Ingraham or Ingram. I suspect Laura is gonna win with that arrangement. Laura had quite a few programs of her own in the past that all poopled out. Mostly because she tried to go it alone rather than have guests. But she seems to have her current one on solid ground after many years of failure. Tucker had some failures too but prevailed.

One of the practical implications of all of this is that the smart dem politicians go over on Fox and try to make it work as best they can, which is often fairly well. There are pile of dem voters watching Fox even if we quibble about the numbers.

to your point:
More Democrats watch Fox News during prime time than CNN: data
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/...watch-fox-news-during-primetime-than-cnndata/
 
Yep. I am okay with El Concho's analysis but I have seen a pantload of article headlines that cut the data different ways to give a different picture.

Some include different time slots, others different genres. Some look at dems vs. republicans, other look at self-identifying libs vs. conservatives even though many are independents. So on and so forth. And then there is the definition of "viewer" or "viewing". I flat out do not watch MSNBC but I see some CNN as part of channel surfing. So am I a CNN viewer?

Speaking of "prime time," as I said earlier Rachel Mad Cow has just left MSNBC and her replacement seems like a dud to me and she is on across from Laura Ingraham or Ingram. I suspect Laura is gonna win with that arrangement. Laura had quite a few programs of her own in the past that all poopled out. Mostly because she tried to go it alone rather than have guests. But she seems to have her current one on solid ground after many years of failure. Tucker had some failures too but prevailed.

One of the practical implications of all of this is that the smart dem politicians go over on Fox and try to make it work as best they can, which is often fairly well. There are pile of dem voters watching Fox even if we quibble about the numbers.

to your point:
More Democrats watch Fox News during prime time than CNN: data
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/...watch-fox-news-during-primetime-than-cnndata/


msnbc and cnn basically fight over the same audience and their quality has taken a huge nose dive in the 8pm -11pm slots. CNBC has added new at night so now you have a 3rd person fighting over an audience.

i think at the end it becomes meaningless who watches what....
 
i think at the end it becomes meaningless who watches what....
This is a valid point
The total audience of cable news is 5-10 million daily
Represents about 3% of the adult population
Only the junkies watch these three stations

The rest of the population cant name the 3 branches of government
 
This is a valid point
The total audience of cable news is 5-10 million daily
Represents about 3% of the adult population
Only the junkies watch these three stations

The rest of the population cant name the 3 branches of government

It is tricky business in some dimensions though- especially in regard to elections.

People may only watch TV in small snippets but also form most of their political judgements from television. Of course the internet and twitter have taken over much of that. But that is even more scary.

That's why I form all of my political views from reading the forum here. That way I know that I am getting the truth.

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It is tricky business in some dimensions though- especially in regard to elections.

People may only watch TV in small snippets but also form most of their political judgements from television. Of course the internet and twitter have taken over much of that. But that is even more scary.
Learning from snippets is what the politicians want...They like the public to learn from headlines...then they can fill the narrative with speech.....there is no depth of subject in this format..good for the politicians

Interesting article about longform podcasts that are dangerous to a politicians....the scrutiny of a long interviews can tear apart points of view

Wow, Politicians Are Really Bad at Podcasting
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/08/19/boring-podcasts-00052659
 
Learning from snippets is what the politicians want...They like the public to learn from headlines...then they can fill the narrative with speech.....there is no depth of subject in this format..good for the politicians

Interesting article about longform podcasts that are dangerous to a politicians....the scrutiny of a long interviews can tear apart points of view

Wow, Politicians Are Really Bad at Podcasting
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/08/19/boring-podcasts-00052659

Yep. Even professional tv types cannot pull it off that easily. Refer to Chris Wallace and Chris Cuomo for more on this. True, Cuomo has just started his podcast gig, but he will not be rocking any boats with his ratings.
 
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