CNN: Confederates were terrorists

Now I know how Rearden Metal feels in frustration that people keep engaging this jackhole.

Quote from jem:

basic human rights to a christian hating commie like you would include:

1. our right to be forced to pay our hard earned income to third party health insurance companies.
2. Our right to be forced to pay for the killing of unborn children
3. Our right to sanction the marriage of two men or 8 men.
4. Our right to have to respect the diversity of other cultures... including such lovely diversities as child molestation and genital mutulation.
5. Our right to pay about half our income to the state income federal income fica and medicare taxes so that others do not have to work.

ZZZ you are probably the biggest commie on ET - you talking about basic human rights is like Stalin, Mao or Che talking about basic human rights.

Libertarians and small government people are the only real human rights supporters. Expansion of government means decrease in rights.
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The fact is that as a soldier in an army you cannot fight a morally pure war. Armies require group action and that means individuals subjugating their personal views for the goals of the group. It is inevitable that any army a morally pure man joins will do some things he disapproves of. Moral culpability depends on the conduct of each individual himself, and not really the conduct of the group he joined for his own purposes, unless the groups known overarching goal and behaviour was clearly immoral.

Since the Confederates were fighting for legitimate state self-determination as well as for illegitimate slavery, one cannot judge all Confederates in blanket fashion. The ones who fought to defend their lands were not committing any immoral acts per se by doing so. The ones who fought so they could keep some slaves, on the other hand, were in the wrong.
 
Quote from MohdSalleh:

looks like Obama has started the rewriting of our national history....

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/04/11/martin.confederate.extremist/index.html?hpt=C2

CNN) -- Based on the hundreds of e-mails, Facebook comments and Tweets I've read in response to my denunciation of Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell's decision to honor Confederates for their involvement in the Civil War -- which was based on the desire to continue slavery -- the one consistent thing that supporters of the proclamation offer up as a defense is that these individuals were fighting for what they believed in and defending their homeland.

In criticizing me for saying that celebrating the Confederates was akin to honoring Nazi soldiers for killing of Jews during the Holocaust, Rob Wagner said, "I am simply defending the honor and dignity of men who were given no choice other than to fight, some as young as thirteen."

Sherry Callahan said that supporting the Confederacy is "our history. Not hate; it's about heritage and history."

Javier Ramirez called slavery evil, but prefaced his remarks by saying that "Confederate soldiers were never seen as terrorists by [President Abraham] Lincoln or U.S. generals on the battlefield. They were accorded POW status, they were never tried for war crimes. Not once did Confederate soldiers do any damage to civilians or their property in their invasion of the north. The same is not true of Union soldiers."

Realskirkland sent me a Tweet saying, "Slavery is appalling, but was not the only reason for the CW [Civil War]. Those men, while misguided on some fronts stood up for what they felt was right. They embodied that American ideal that the states have a right to govern themselves. THAT is what a confederate soldier stood for."

If you take all of these comments, don't they sound eerily similar to what we hear today from Muslim extremists who have pledged their lives to defend the honor of Allah and to defeat the infidels in the West?
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I see the similarities, they are fighting to keep their women enslaved..
 
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The fact is that as a soldier in an army you cannot fight a morally pure war. Armies require group action and that means individuals subjugating their personal views for the goals of the group. It is inevitable that any army a morally pure man joins will do some things he disapproves of. Moral culpability depends on the conduct of each individual himself, and not really the conduct of the group he joined for his own purposes, unless the groups known overarching goal and behaviour was clearly immoral.

Since the Confederates were fighting for legitimate state self-determination as well as for illegitimate slavery, one cannot judge all Confederates in blanket fashion. The ones who fought to defend their lands were not committing any immoral acts per se by doing so. The ones who fought so they could keep some slaves, on the other hand, were in the wrong.
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elegantly said.

Many southerners were wrong...

but they were not terrorists.
I think it is vital that we reserve that word for real terrorists.
 
People need to be aware that the Civil War ended the great and noble experiment our founding fathers won from the king.

What emerged was subservience to another form of rule unrivaled by any king.

Of course it has it's own moral lackeys, dupes and buttkissers such as optional, derangedbar, gadfly & maxipad.
 
Wow, sounds strangely familiar to various dictators throughout history.

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These southern jerks don't understand anything but a good beating, and they don't respect anyone who doesn't kick the shit out of them...
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Jail people for owning flags? :confused: I think that the Soviets had similar rules, although not as draconian. Coincidence?

Quote from OPTIONAL777:



We should have treated these scum the way Germany did the Nazis after the Nazis were crushed.

Anyone with a Confederate flag?

Put their traitorous ass in jail...
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I need to amend my quote above as I thought about it. I researched terrorism and after melting together a few of the definitions....


A confederate solider was not a terrorist when he was in uniform.
If he wore a sheet over his head when he was back home... he was a terrorist.

As such... the democrats do have a former terrorist senator.
 
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