"Fox News analyst". Such a bundle of contradictions in that phrase. Add in the name "Allen West" and it would be hilarious if it wasn't so tragic. And disgusting.
CNBS took 20 minutes to report the plane shot down
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There were no blackboxes , the plane was send as a provocation
They were all spies, even the infants. You're right there with the radical Islamists when they make their idiotic claims. They bang their heads on the floor for several hours every day while praying to Allah, no doubt doing permanent brain damage. What's your excuse?
Lol, nice.
Anyway, re your comment about being right if you're on the opposite side of the resident leftists... I don't think that's a fair statement. Your desire for a "muscular" response to Putin, on the ground at the crash site (which I share, by the way, sadly it's too late), and other comments re Russia, really sound a lot like... McCain!
You have a wild imagination,time to take break from that stuff you're smoking,go check there might be Putin hiding in your backyard
Sometimes McCain is right. Sometimes Obama is right. Hell, sometimes you're right. I live by one adage. The truth is the truth regardless of who speaks it. Putin is a thug and needs to be taught a lesson, whatever the cost. it's a pay me now, pay me later type situation. The longer this continues, the worse it's going to be. "This" being Putin acting as if there are no real consequences to his actions.
Thousands are being killed in the Ukraine. Tens of thousands more being slaughtered in Iraq and Syria. Violence by radical elements around the world is growing exponentially. While we wring our hands and watch, they get stronger. We cannot expect to be a neutral bystander in all of this without suffering our own consequences, and we cannot believe it won't be messy to clean up. This just isn't going to magically fix itself.
Captain, you couldn't be more wrong.
First, the only valid reason for sending US troops into combat is to protect vital US interests. We have none in Ukraine. We have none in syria either. We had none in Libya but we meddled there anyway. How did that work out? We destabilized Iraq, then showed how naive we were by trying to engage in Good Humor man nation-building. How did that work out? Afghanistan? Big success there or nightmare?
Second, we are the ones who need to learn a lesson, not putin. He was minding his own business, unlike us, until we fomented a crisis and overthrew an elected government in Ukraine. The new government is anti-russian. Lots of russians live in Ukraine and didn't like it.
Third, the idea that Obama should put troops into a dangerous situation without congressional approval is unacceptable to me. You and McCain seem to be pining for us to get into a shooting situation with Russia. You want to start brandishing nukes over a place most Amercians couldn't find on the map. McCain was all frothing at the mouth for us to go into Ssyria too. Then it turns out we would be on the side of the people he wants us to go into Iraq to fight. Get it straight, ok?
First, the only valid reason for sending US troops into combat is to protect vital US interests. We have none in Ukraine. We have none in syria either. We had none in Libya but we meddled there anyway. How did that work out? We destabilized Iraq, then showed how naive we were by trying to engage in Good Humor man nation-building. How did that work out? Afghanistan? Big success there or nightmare?
Second, we are the ones who need to learn a lesson, not putin. He was minding his own business, unlike us, until we fomented a crisis and overthrew an elected government in Ukraine. The new government is anti-russian. Lots of russians live in Ukraine and didn't like it.
Third, the idea that Obama should put troops into a dangerous situation without congressional approval is unacceptable to me. You and McCain seem to be pining for us to get into a shooting situation with Russia. You want to start brandishing nukes over a place most Amercians couldn't find on the map. McCain was all frothing at the mouth for us to go into Ssyria too. Then it turns out we would be on the side of the people he wants us to go into Iraq to fight. Get it straight, ok?
Your post is saddening to me because it illustrates why I have such a cynical point of view regarding the future of our country. If good Americans like yourself take such a myopic worldview as to believe we can simply watch the world burn without the embers eventually ending up on our shores, then we're done.
I know good Americans like yourself are war weary. Weary of watching one failure after another. It's not our involvement that is the problem, it's the implementation. The only thing I can agree with is that if we're only going to stick our toe in the shallow end of the pool then recoil at the chill, we would be better off doing nothing at all, because all we accomplish is to stir the hornets nest and then run for cover. (Sorry for the mixed metaphors).
We're going to lose all of this one day and I suppose future historians will ask, did they really think that they could just be cheap seat spectators while expecting the fame and fortune of the players on the field?
I know good Americans like yourself are war weary. Weary of watching one failure after another. It's not our involvement that is the problem, it's the implementation. The only thing I can agree with is that if we're only going to stick our toe in the shallow end of the pool then recoil at the chill, we would be better off doing nothing at all, because all we accomplish is to stir the hornets nest and then run for cover. (Sorry for the mixed metaphors).
We're going to lose all of this one day and I suppose future historians will ask, did they really think that they could just be cheap seat spectators while expecting the fame and fortune of the players on the field?
Good news is that two flight recorders seem to have been found. Do both record the same stuff? Perhaps one could be sent to a NATO partner (the Netherlands) and the other independently to China. Transcripts could be prepared independentl