C'mon Canada

So does this make any sense? Suddenly does Canada have a much larger population, much smaller land and wood availability, and their wages and weather are twice as good?

Double trouble: A house in Canada now costs nearly twice what it does in the US
https://nypost.com/2022/04/25/the-average-canadian-home-price-is-now-double-that-of-us/

American homebuyers can take small comfort: It’s far worse up north.

The Canadian housing market is even more ludicrously expensive than the US’s, with the nation’s home prices recently reaching a new record high, which puts the average housing cost at almost double that of America’s.

Since early 2020, Canadian home prices have surged 30%, an increase which is “nothing short of stunning,” economist Robert Hogue wrote for a recent Royal Bank of Canada report (via Fortune).

As of February, the Canadian Real Estate Association reported that the average price of a Canadian home stood at 816,720 Canadian dollars, or $646,809 — over nine times the average household income.

In contrast, the US has seen slightly lower price increases, with home prices rising 27% over the same period, Fortune previously reported. In America, the median home price last month stood at $375,000, an all-time high and a 15% rise from a year prior.

The reasons for the unaffordability of both housing markets are almost identical, experts say: The pandemic increased demand for larger homes as they became “people’s workplaces, children’s schools, and [the center of] entertainment,” Canadian real estate brokerage Royal LePage’s president and CEO Phil Soper told Fortune.

In addition, millennials in both countries began buying their first homes and upgrading their starter homes while baby boomers added to demand by seeking homes to grow older in.

All of this is coupled with a dire lack of housing in both nations.

“[It’s] hard to wrap my head around prices right now,” investment bank equity sales director Johnny Chen, 33, told Fortune about his ongoing struggle to buy an affordable house in Vancouver’s cutthroat real estate market. “There’s just so much competition.”

Despite being in the country’s top income bracket and looking through listings on a daily basis, Chen finds that even single-family homes on the market in the CA$3 million ($2.4 million) range often need “substantial renovation work” forcing him to continue his search from a townhouse he owns beyond the city center.

“It’s hard to know how much the home will actually cost with inflation in labor and building materials, plus slow turnaround times for building permits,” he said. “Vancouver’s real estate market is a bit crazy.”

Its time a lot of countries accepted reality that while it's nice to have houses, it's time to give up on everything being a few stories high and start making tall (30+floor) residential building zones with high speed transport inwards to the cities.

I have ethical issues with buying existing homes as an investment as it seems to just be just stealing from the next generation but I build them so other than the land, I'm increasing supply a bit.
 
So does this make any sense? Suddenly does Canada have a much larger population, much smaller land and wood availability, and their wages and weather are twice as good?

Double trouble: A house in Canada now costs nearly twice what it does in the US
https://nypost.com/2022/04/25/the-average-canadian-home-price-is-now-double-that-of-us/

American homebuyers can take small comfort: It’s far worse up north.

The Canadian housing market is even more ludicrously expensive than the US’s, with the nation’s home prices recently reaching a new record high, which puts the average housing cost at almost double that of America’s.

Since early 2020, Canadian home prices have surged 30%, an increase which is “nothing short of stunning,” economist Robert Hogue wrote for a recent Royal Bank of Canada report (via Fortune).

As of February, the Canadian Real Estate Association reported that the average price of a Canadian home stood at 816,720 Canadian dollars, or $646,809 — over nine times the average household income.

In contrast, the US has seen slightly lower price increases, with home prices rising 27% over the same period, Fortune previously reported. In America, the median home price last month stood at $375,000, an all-time high and a 15% rise from a year prior.

The reasons for the unaffordability of both housing markets are almost identical, experts say: The pandemic increased demand for larger homes as they became “people’s workplaces, children’s schools, and [the center of] entertainment,” Canadian real estate brokerage Royal LePage’s president and CEO Phil Soper told Fortune.

In addition, millennials in both countries began buying their first homes and upgrading their starter homes while baby boomers added to demand by seeking homes to grow older in.

All of this is coupled with a dire lack of housing in both nations.

“[It’s] hard to wrap my head around prices right now,” investment bank equity sales director Johnny Chen, 33, told Fortune about his ongoing struggle to buy an affordable house in Vancouver’s cutthroat real estate market. “There’s just so much competition.”

Despite being in the country’s top income bracket and looking through listings on a daily basis, Chen finds that even single-family homes on the market in the CA$3 million ($2.4 million) range often need “substantial renovation work” forcing him to continue his search from a townhouse he owns beyond the city center.

“It’s hard to know how much the home will actually cost with inflation in labor and building materials, plus slow turnaround times for building permits,” he said. “Vancouver’s real estate market is a bit crazy.”

Vancouver is one of the outrageous crazy housing markets.

Drinking water out of a public water fountain in Vancouver will cost you about $10 dollars per mouth full of water...sarcasm because water is free in Canada. :D

wrbtrader
 
Vancouver is one of the outrageous crazy housing markets.

Drinking water out of a public water fountain in Vancouver will cost you about $10 dollars per mouth full of water...sarcasm because water is free in Canada.

wrbtrader
Actually, some municipalities have a water tax based on household consumption.
 
Actually, some municipalities have a water tax based on household consumption.

They tried that in Ireland and got a big surprise, the government got beaten down. People finally had a red line nobody in power expected to see. Snag was it helped fuel the rise of a party that used to be the political wing of the IRA, Sinn Fein. The younger generation don't remember how big a bunch of unaccountable a-holes they were deep down and protest voted them out of the fringe.
 
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Actually, some municipalities have a water tax based on household consumption.

Hot water that requires heat and heat (electricity is taxed ?

Actually, some municipalities in Canada, fund their water and waste water through property taxes.

Simply, a lot more people stayed home during the Pandemic. I'm expecting my property taxes to go up even more next year after they went up the past two years on both my properties that are located in different municipalities. :(

My teenagers use a crazy amount of water. :rolleyes:

wrbtrader
 
I'm referring to municipalities that have a consumption-based water tax in addition to municipal (and school) taxes.

Ahhh...that's right...Vancouver is one of those municipalities that has that tax...

Use less water...pay less. :D

Pay more for food, pay more for gas, pay more property tax...everything is going up. Neighbor traded in two of their cars for electric vehicles...

I may do the same.

wrbtrader
 
Neighbor traded in two of their cars for electric vehicles...

I may do the same.

wrbtrader

Yeah, watch that. In Ireland the price of charging an electric at a charging point is getting closer to parity with the price of diesel for the same journey.

Governments won't lose the fuel tax revenue.
 
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