CME Secures $7 Billion Credit Line "In Case Of Clearing Member Default"

Just like the carnage in 2008-2009 (although big banks have been spared) lots of traders, prop groups, hedge funds, and black boxes have blown up or closed down these past 2 months. It's never a good idea to treat your unprotected trading account (at a clearinghouse) like a bank account..always keep the minimum required amount. One or two rogue accounts can take down an FCM or clearinghouse and all of its trader clients (see Ronin Capital). CME also learned its lesson from the MF Global debacle.


Or maybe they learned they gonna get sued
 
CME has 66 clearing member firms. I have an account at one of those.
Several years ago I was proactive in pulling out my $ just prior to the PFG Best collapse as well as the MF Global collapse. Food for thought.

CME Group has 66 clearing firms across all divisions. The CME division has 51 clearing firms.

As of 29 FEB 2020 the CFTC shows only 63 FCMs. I can remember when there were more than 100 FCMs.

Does industry consolidation into fewer larger FCMs make things safer or more dangerous?
 
An interesting question. Getting rid of bad apples in the barrel has made it safer. Good riddance to poor risk managers and/or crooks! On the other hand, monopolies can be hazardous, if a huge firm like ABN-Amro were to go down it would be catastrophic. Hopefully they have gotten that large by being truly excellent at what they do. It wouldn't hurt to share the risk over a larger number of firms, but only if they are top notch and survive volatility and increased risk. I noticed my former firm AMP is on the list; they are quite small, but their margin policies really tighten up during very volatile times. I would guess they are likely to survive the tougher times upon us, and not lose 88 million dollars.
 
Being proactive was indeed wise, great move on your part! Many traders don't even look at the underlying financials of the firms they are trusting their lives with so to speak. Note that Deutsche Bank is a clearing firm, to me that is a bit scary! When I got a new futures account with a clearing firm recently, I was extremely impressed with the financial details of the firm on the application

I was a PFG client. No way to tell by looking at their financials they were cooking the books with fraudulence and forgery. Anyone of these clearing firms could go at it, especially in times like this.
 
CME has 66 clearing member firms. I have an account at one of those.
Several years ago I was proactive in pulling out my $ just prior to the PFG Best collapse as well as the MF Global collapse. Food for thought.
Might we ask: Are you "pulling out" your $ now?
 
In terms of FCMs, I am now with Advantage and Transact. We all have our different priorities. With AMP their tech support was fine, but I found other aspects of customer service/contactability inadequate to my standards and needs. From now on I will stick to introducing brokers who provide a high level of customer service, with an assigned personal broker who knows me and can work quickly to resolve a problem. AMP has cut-rate prices, but I personally would rather pay a little more instead of feeling like just an account number.
 
I was a PFG client. No way to tell by looking at their financials they were cooking the books with fraudulence and forgery. Anyone of these clearing firms could go at it, especially in times like this.

I agree that in some cases it can be quite difficult. One of my sisters was an internal auditor for a large university for years, and she had plenty of stories. Sometimes there are clues, but one has to be a good detective, or maybe even some inside information about character issues, etc. Lets hope that there is not another MF lurking in this already volatile environment!
 
I'm with Amp now and i've called them at least 4 times and they've answered quick every time and there platform is great . I thought if a broker goes under the other member firms make the accounts whole? Has anyone ever lost a penny in a futures account? I thought mf global clients go their money back ?
 
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