There was a lot of interest generated from my SPX Credit Spread Trader thread on my use of Closed-end funds to generate monthly income, put my credit spread margin to work and hedge some of the returns of option trading with the monthly income and capital appreciation.
Basically I use closed-end funds as buy and hold investments, not for flipping or trading. I look for CEFs that meet the following criteria:
1. Should do well in the coming year based on fundamental economic factors in the market and the type of investments the fund makes (i.e., in a rising rate environment focus on shorter duration funds, buying REIT funds when real estate is doing well,, etc..) Basically I do a detailed analysis of the fund investments and see if they should do well based on all market factors.
2. Look for funds which are diversified within their holdings and not heavily loaded in one sector or sectors unless that is the sector I am looking to be invested in.
3. Look for a yield of 6% or better, same after-tax yield levels for muni funds. THIS ARE NOT RISK_FREE INVESTMENTS SO HIGHER YIELDS DOES BRING RISK. ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT RISK COMES WITH YIELDS!
4. Look for funds trading at a discount or flat.
5. Avoid heavy leverage where possible.
6. In addition to diversification with each fund, strive for diversification with all funds together - not all REIT funds or corporate bond funds.
7. STOP LOSS- With good diversification, share price drops can be diversified away in a good CEF portfolio and you will be left with the yield. However I still want the extra boost from share appreciation so I try and cut losers when I can. My short-cut formula is to cut any fund when its share price loss equals it dividend yield I had when I first got in. This is a no-brainer way to cut losses and an easy rule to follow. The monthly income will insure that unless the drop occurs immediately, you will never suffer the full stop limit loss. SO if a fund is down 7% in 4 months and that is the Stop limit loss level, the actual loss will be loss due to 4 months of dividends and you simply sell the fund and look for the next one. I may hold onto funds in limtied cases and it is a case by case determination
8. AS long as a fund is paying a good yield and share price loss is not at the stop loss limit, you never sell and hold to keep that monthly income. Exception is if you forsee fundamentals changing for that funds sector and you wish to close out and take the profit in the share appreciation. My other rule is that if the gain is 20% or more in a year, you are free to take the money and run since the dividend yield was greatly outpaced by the share appreciation and the gain is more now then you could get in a few years so better to cut and reinvest the proceeds elsewhere to avoid losing those gains for the sake of a dividend. 20% is significant enought to take profits.
I am attaching the DEC 2004 issue of the free newsletter I started but discontinued do to time constraints and family obligations. The reason I put this here is that the first half lists the 6 reasons why you should consider adding CEFs to your portfolio. I also list 4 CEF picks which I wll discuss in the next post in more detail. I AM NOT STARTING THE NEWSLETTER AGAIN AND NOT SOLICITING ANYTHING HERE EVER. PLEASE READ THIS SENTENCE TWICE BEFORE ACCUSING ME OF LOOKING TO PUSH A PRODUCT. THIS NEWSLETTER WAS FREE AT ALL TIMES AND I STOPPED IT DUE TO TIME CONSTRAINTS AND PERSONAL REASONS. I HAVE NO DESIRE TO DO IT AGAIN AND POSTED IT HERE JUST TO SAVE TIME IN HAVING TO REPOST THE 6 REASONS THAT ARE IN THERE. IT ALSO STARTS THE DISCUSSION ON SOME CEFS.
Ok, feel free to add comments and discussion on CEFs. The purpose of this thread is to discuss income CEFs as a tool to add monthly income and stability to idle cash in your portoflio or for money used as margin for credit spreads, short puts or for any reason you like really. This thread is not about trading or flipping CEFs and it is more long-term since the goal is annual yield and income as an addition to your portfolio.
Phil
Basically I use closed-end funds as buy and hold investments, not for flipping or trading. I look for CEFs that meet the following criteria:
1. Should do well in the coming year based on fundamental economic factors in the market and the type of investments the fund makes (i.e., in a rising rate environment focus on shorter duration funds, buying REIT funds when real estate is doing well,, etc..) Basically I do a detailed analysis of the fund investments and see if they should do well based on all market factors.
2. Look for funds which are diversified within their holdings and not heavily loaded in one sector or sectors unless that is the sector I am looking to be invested in.
3. Look for a yield of 6% or better, same after-tax yield levels for muni funds. THIS ARE NOT RISK_FREE INVESTMENTS SO HIGHER YIELDS DOES BRING RISK. ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT RISK COMES WITH YIELDS!
4. Look for funds trading at a discount or flat.
5. Avoid heavy leverage where possible.
6. In addition to diversification with each fund, strive for diversification with all funds together - not all REIT funds or corporate bond funds.
7. STOP LOSS- With good diversification, share price drops can be diversified away in a good CEF portfolio and you will be left with the yield. However I still want the extra boost from share appreciation so I try and cut losers when I can. My short-cut formula is to cut any fund when its share price loss equals it dividend yield I had when I first got in. This is a no-brainer way to cut losses and an easy rule to follow. The monthly income will insure that unless the drop occurs immediately, you will never suffer the full stop limit loss. SO if a fund is down 7% in 4 months and that is the Stop limit loss level, the actual loss will be loss due to 4 months of dividends and you simply sell the fund and look for the next one. I may hold onto funds in limtied cases and it is a case by case determination
8. AS long as a fund is paying a good yield and share price loss is not at the stop loss limit, you never sell and hold to keep that monthly income. Exception is if you forsee fundamentals changing for that funds sector and you wish to close out and take the profit in the share appreciation. My other rule is that if the gain is 20% or more in a year, you are free to take the money and run since the dividend yield was greatly outpaced by the share appreciation and the gain is more now then you could get in a few years so better to cut and reinvest the proceeds elsewhere to avoid losing those gains for the sake of a dividend. 20% is significant enought to take profits.
I am attaching the DEC 2004 issue of the free newsletter I started but discontinued do to time constraints and family obligations. The reason I put this here is that the first half lists the 6 reasons why you should consider adding CEFs to your portfolio. I also list 4 CEF picks which I wll discuss in the next post in more detail. I AM NOT STARTING THE NEWSLETTER AGAIN AND NOT SOLICITING ANYTHING HERE EVER. PLEASE READ THIS SENTENCE TWICE BEFORE ACCUSING ME OF LOOKING TO PUSH A PRODUCT. THIS NEWSLETTER WAS FREE AT ALL TIMES AND I STOPPED IT DUE TO TIME CONSTRAINTS AND PERSONAL REASONS. I HAVE NO DESIRE TO DO IT AGAIN AND POSTED IT HERE JUST TO SAVE TIME IN HAVING TO REPOST THE 6 REASONS THAT ARE IN THERE. IT ALSO STARTS THE DISCUSSION ON SOME CEFS.
Ok, feel free to add comments and discussion on CEFs. The purpose of this thread is to discuss income CEFs as a tool to add monthly income and stability to idle cash in your portoflio or for money used as margin for credit spreads, short puts or for any reason you like really. This thread is not about trading or flipping CEFs and it is more long-term since the goal is annual yield and income as an addition to your portfolio.
Phil