Close-Up Footage of Mavi Marmara Passengers Attacking IDF Soldiers

Previously all the palestinian supporters were saying "Oh the poor palestinians on the ship were not doing anything. They were just sitting there when the big bad israelis came and started shooting them for no reason"

Now that the footage is out, they change their story but try to say it was self defense? One of you even equate it to the same as a woman trying to defend herself if she was raped.

I have another one for you. Suppose the police stopped 5 different cars because of suspected DUI. When he stopped the 6th car, all the passengers got out, ran to the patrol car and started beating the police officer before he even got out of the car. Is that self defense too?
 
Yep, classic pallywood propaganda maneuver. Lie to get moral high ground, then change the story as needed if any facts surface.

Quote from peilthetraveler:

Previously all the palestinian supporters were saying "Oh the poor palestinians on the ship were not doing anything. They were just sitting there when the big bad israelis came and started shooting them for no reason"

Now that the footage is out, they change their story but try to say it was self defense? One of you even equate it to the same as a woman trying to defend herself if she was raped.

I have another one for you. Suppose the police stopped 5 different cars because of suspected DUI. When he stopped the 6th car, all the passengers got out, ran to the patrol car and started beating the police officer before he even got out of the car. Is that self defense too?
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I am shocked. . . SHOCKED . . that the palistinians and their ilk would stage a PR stunt in a laughable attempt to make Israel look bad.

Again.
 
Quote from achilles28:

No, preemptive action is when armed soldiers board the ship by force. Or isn't that apparent to you?

Or, do you suggest when 5 women submit to rape, the sixth has no right to self defense since the other 5 didn't exercise it?
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What force was used, prior to them boarding the 6th ship?

None, from what I can tell. If you have other info, please present it.

Otherwise, your hypothetical question is stupid, since it may not have happened. A better scenario for you to be asking is whether or not a woman has the right to defend herself against.... whatever particular group you choose to single out...... cuz it has happened in some past, unrelated incident.

IOW, pre-emptively.

Rational people realize that these activists have a reason to be uneasy, especially since I'm quite sure that they were aware of the "blockade", but those same rational people also realize that since violence didn't seem to be present on the other ships, then they were acting pre-emptively with the mindset that it was gonna happen anyways.

Try to be rational, eh?
 
Quote from phenomena:

First of all, there was no force used until the Israelis were attacked with lead pipes and knives. Second, it really makes you look like a desperate crackpot to compare ship boarding to sexual rape. You're a bright guy, you should know that makes you look really stupid.
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Unfortunately, this is just about all that a Jew hater knows to do.

Personally, I couldn't give a shit about EITHER side. And so, I can say that the activists have cause to be wary, and understand their side of things.

The same goes for the Israelis. They have reason to be suspicious of any aid shipments.

But to lie like Achilles does is morally bankrupt.
 
Quote from achilles28:

The Turkish ship was ~60 miles outside Israeli territorial waters. There's a slew of quotes from British, Turkish and American maritime authorities saying there was no jurisdiction. The Turks could have gunned down every IDF solider (and the helicopter), and been in the right.

You realize how dumb you sound, calling a military take-over of a civilian ship in international waters, a "mission of peace".
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Without trying to wade into what is obviously a flame war in progress, even if a ship were 160 miles outside the US territorial waters, yet the Navy or Coast Guard suspected the ship were delivering some sort of weapons etc, to a hostile force, don't you think they would board the ship as well? Hell, the US has boarded ships around the world, and those are certainly not US waters.

I'm not saying it's right or wrong. I'm just "sayin".
 
Clearly the weapons of mass destruction that Bush said were in Iraq...

Quote from OTCkrak:

ive posted this on three posts so all can clearly see this was self defense.. the barbaric savages were armed to the teeth!

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Gotta think if the pals were looking for a fight, they would have had machine guns ready...

So they grabbed kitchen knives and shit to ward off invaders...

Shame the passengers of the planes on 9/11 didn't take similar steps when their planes were hijacked with box cutters...

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Isn't anybody innocent in this shit. Both sides looking for a fight, and a fight ain't that hard to find now days.
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Quote from phenomena:

Yes, in international waters. Anywhere approaching the coastline or, in fact, anywhere in gaza sea. Swing and a miss. Fail...
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What legal authority gives Israel the right to board ships in international waters?

Israels own declaration that it retains the right to do so, doesn't count. Sorry.
 
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