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Quote from jem:

and john cook runs skepticalscience.com

he is the clown who re stated the 97% number after surveying 11,000 climate papers. H

The rebuttal paper to that paper showed the number was really .3%. And that rebuttal paper was published in a 22 year old journal.

What the hell are babbling about oh arm-less knight?

.3% what? That think you are sane?

The 97% number is pretty close. In essence the world's science community is as sure about it as they are that smoking is bad for one's health.



You are like the guy arguing tobacco is not bad.

It's a shame that you think you need to lie to support your fanatical ideology. Pretty sick if you ask me.
 
you seem to like me hitting you in the head with facts... AGAIN and AGAIN.

"Only 41 out of the 11,944 published climate papers Cook examined explicitly stated that Man caused most of the warming since 1950. " Which is .3%.

This was a peer reviewed paper which destroyed Cook's bullshit paper and your bullshit consensus.

99% of papers do not conclude that man causes most of the warming since 1990.

that is the current state of science you ignorant troll.





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http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/09/...ven-by-a-new-paper-showing-major-math-errors/

A major peer-reviewed paper by four senior researchers has exposed grave errors in an earlier paper in a new and unknown journal that had claimed a 97.1% scientific consensus that Man had caused at least half the 0.7 Cº global warming since 1950.

A tweet in President Obama’s name had assumed that the earlier, flawed paper, by John Cook and others, showed 97% endorsement of the notion that climate change is dangerous:

“Ninety-seven percent of scientists agree: #climate change is real, man-made and dangerous.” [Emphasis added]

The new paper by the leading climatologist Dr David Legates and his colleagues, published in the respected Science and Education journal, now in its 21st year of publication, reveals that Cook had not considered whether scientists and their published papers had said climate change was “dangerous”.

The consensus Cook considered was the standard definition: that Man had caused most post-1950 warming. Even on this weaker definition the true consensus among published scientific papers is now demonstrated to be not 97.1%, as Cook had claimed, but only 0.3%.

Only 41 out of the 11,944 published climate papers Cook examined explicitly stated that Man caused most of the warming since 1950. Cook himself had flagged just 64 papers as explicitly supporting that consensus, but 23 of the 64 had not in fact supported it.

This shock result comes scant weeks before the United Nations’ climate panel, the IPCC, issues its fifth five-yearly climate assessment, claiming “95% confidence” in the imagined – and, as the new paper shows, imaginary – consensus.



Climate Consensus and ‘Misinformation’: a Rejoinder to ‘Agnotology, Scientific Consensus, and the Teaching and Learning of Climate Change’ decisively rejects suggestions by Cook and others that those who say few scientists explicitly support the supposedly near-unanimous climate consensus are misinforming and misleading the public.

Dr Legates said: “It is astonishing that any journal could have published a paper claiming a 97% climate consensus when on the authors’ own analysis the true consensus was well below 1%.

...

more at link





Quote from futurecurrents:

What the hell are babbling about oh arm-less knight?

.3% what? That think you are sane?

The 97% number is pretty close. In essence the world's science community is as sure about it as they are that smoking is bad for one's health.



You are like the guy arguing tobacco is not bad.

It's a shame that you think you need to lie to support your fanatical ideology. Pretty sick if you ask me.
 
Quote from futurecurrents:



You are like the guy arguing tobacco is not bad.

You mean like those medical doctors doing Camel adds in the 1950's?


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Quote from jem:

and john cook runs skepticalscience.com

he is the clown who re stated the 97% number after surveying 11,000 climate papers. H

The rebuttal paper to that paper showed the number was really .3%. And that rebuttal paper was published in a 22 year old journal.

And I should note that Al Gore's hedge fund, Generation Investment Management LLP, funds Skeptical Science. The hedge fund formerly had a press announcement on their website proudly crowing about their financial support for Skeptical Science.
 
Quote from jem:

you seem to like me hitting you in the head with facts... AGAIN and AGAIN.

"Only 41 out of the 11,944 published climate papers Cook examined explicitly stated that Man caused most of the warming since 1950. " Which is .3%.

This was a peer reviewed paper which destroyed Cook's bullshit paper and your bullshit consensus.

99% of papers do not conclude that man causes most of the warming since 1990.

that is the current state of science you ignorant troll.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/09/...ven-by-a-new-paper-showing-major-math-errors/

A major peer-reviewed paper by four senior researchers has exposed grave errors in an earlier paper in a new and unknown journal that had claimed a 97.1% scientific consensus that Man had caused at least half the 0.7 Cº global warming since 1950.

A tweet in President Obama’s name had assumed that the earlier, flawed paper, by John Cook and others, showed 97% endorsement of the notion that climate change is dangerous:

“Ninety-seven percent of scientists agree: #climate change is real, man-made and dangerous.” [Emphasis added]

The new paper by the leading climatologist Dr David Legates and his colleagues, published in the respected Science and Education journal, now in its 21st year of publication, reveals that Cook had not considered whether scientists and their published papers had said climate change was “dangerous”.

The consensus Cook considered was the standard definition: that Man had caused most post-1950 warming. Even on this weaker definition the true consensus among published scientific papers is now demonstrated to be not 97.1%, as Cook had claimed, but only 0.3%.

Only 41 out of the 11,944 published climate papers Cook examined explicitly stated that Man caused most of the warming since 1950. Cook himself had flagged just 64 papers as explicitly supporting that consensus, but 23 of the 64 had not in fact supported it.

This shock result comes scant weeks before the United Nations’ climate panel, the IPCC, issues its fifth five-yearly climate assessment, claiming “95% confidence” in the imagined – and, as the new paper shows, imaginary – consensus.



Climate Consensus and ‘Misinformation’: a Rejoinder to ‘Agnotology, Scientific Consensus, and the Teaching and Learning of Climate Change’ decisively rejects suggestions by Cook and others that those who say few scientists explicitly support the supposedly near-unanimous climate consensus are misinforming and misleading the public.

Dr Legates said: “It is astonishing that any journal could have published a paper claiming a 97% climate consensus when on the authors’ own analysis the true consensus was well below 1%.

...

more at link


yeah ok.....sure.......nutjob

bullshit from Koch bros funded propaganda whores

and you fall for it

so gullible

try NASA and NOAA

they say 97%


take your meds.
 
Quote from John_Wensink:

Then if co2 is at it's highlest levels why hasn't the earth warmed over the last 15 years.

A 10 year old can understand it, why can't you?

The earth has not stopped or even slowed down it's warming. Moron. How many times do I have to tell you dumb fucks that the oceans contain 94% of the earth's heat? Do you understand what that means?

Go find a ten year old to explain it to you.


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Quote from futurecurrents:

The earth has not stopped or even slowed down it's warming.
Except the last 16 years?
Moron. How many times do I have to tell you dumb fucks that the oceans contain 94% of the earth's heat? Do you understand what that means?

Go find a ten year old to explain it to you.
:D

I'm imagining a loner/loser sitting alone in his small dark apartment banging on his keyboard and shouting at his cat. "Why won't they believe me?"
 
LOL idiot

At the heart of the problem lie the computer models which, for 25 years, have formed the basis for the IPCC’s scaremongering: they predicted runaway global warming, when the real rise in temperatures has been much more modest.

This is why the latest Assessment Report is proving such a headache to the IPCC. It’s the first in its history to admit what its critics have said for years: global warming did “pause” unexpectedly in 1998 and shows no sign of resuming. And, other than an ad hoc new theory about the missing heat having been absorbed by the deep ocean





Quote from futurecurrents:

The earth has not stopped or even slowed down it's warming. Moron. How many times do I have to tell you dumb fucks that the oceans contain 94% of the earth's heat? Do you understand what that means?

Go find a ten year old to explain it to you.


heat_content700m2000myr.png
 
LOL

Multiple theories

Though scientists don't have any firm answers, they do have multiple theories. Xie has argued that the hiatus is the result of heat absorption by the Pacific Ocean — a little-understood, naturally occurring process that repeats itself every few decades. Xie and his colleagues presented the idea in a study published last month in the prestigious journal Nature.

Idiot.
 
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