Climate Alarmists Own Words Debunk Their Science

Quote from jem:

I have trouble believing scientists and universities would be influenced by billions of dollars in grants.

I have trouble believing the left would lie about the climate to promote world govt a new world orders and wealth transfer.

I have trouble believing the UN would lie to me.

I have trouble believing that although my chart shows that temperature change precedes CO2 accumulation and dissipation that CO2 does not cause warming on earth because people Bill Maher tell me so.

I have trouble believing anti agw papers would have trouble being published in agw journals.

I am product of todays education system in which our children do no learn critical thinking unless their parents teach it to them.

When a country has a spending problem I vote for more spending.

Pleased to meet you won't you guess my name.
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I have no problem believing you are batshit crazy. Of course you have company.

Is CO2 a dominant greenhouse gas? Has it gone up 35% due to man? How would that not result in warming? Think. Think hard. Think past your political ideology. For once.
 
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I have no problem believing you are batshit crazy. Of course you have company.

Is CO2 a dominant greenhouse gas? Has it gone up 35% due to man? How would that not result in warming? Think. Think hard. Think past your political ideology. For once.
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boy you are brainless.

CO2 has gone up.
CO2 could have gone up as part of earths cycles.

Finding a portion of man made CO2 in the environment does not mean man releasing CO2 caused accumulation. Why did the rest of man made CO2 get processed and not cause more accumulation?

Cutting down rain forests could have caused the accumulation.
The Sun or the tides could have caused the accumulation.
Cows, the size of the population - lots of things could have caused the accumulation of CO2.
 
Quote from futurecurrents:

Is CO2 a dominant greenhouse gas? Has it gone up 35% due to man? How would that not result in warming? Think. Think hard. Think past your political ideology. For once.
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Wrong monkey brains.

Water vapor is by far the dominant greenhouse gas. And, thank God becasuse with out it we would still be Snowball Earth.

Here's another inconvenient truth for you monkey brains. Man hasn't released that much CO2. Some day you really need to get a clue and quit posting all your bull shit.
 
Quote from pspr:
I've shown you the real science that completely debunks your foolish sheep like attitude.
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Could you please re-iterate the "read science" that you have shown? So far, there is not a single citation from a scientific journal in the whole thread. Forbes magazine, with all due respect, is barely a step away from New York Post.

Quote from gwb-trading:
Are you afraid of reading a well-reasoned article supported by facts and quotes that outlines the reality that global warming
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Lets start at the stage zero - is there or is there not any evidence for an increase in the mean and median temperatures across the world, a.k.a global warming?
 
 
Quote from sle:

Could you please re-iterate the "read science" that you have shown? So far, there is not a single citation from a scientific journal in the whole thread. Forbes magazine, with all due respect, is barely a step away from New York Post.


Lets start at the stage zero - is there or is there not any evidence for an increase in the mean and median temperatures across the world, a.k.a global warming?
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Go read the other theads. In the 1970s there was plenty of panic about global cooling that was going to cause the next ice age by year 2000. This was constantly covered in the media with plenty of scientists predicting calamity unless action was taken immediately (meaning to fund them more). In the 1970s global cooling was taught as an 'accepted fact' in K-12 science classes and at universities. In my case, 'global cooling' was part of the New York State Regents agenda and taught as a certain fact in our earth science classes.

Do you see the similarities...
 
Quote from pspr:
You can start by reading these threads and related links and videos. You're late to the discussion.
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Maybe I was not clear. Do you have any references from any peer reviewed publications that (a) denies increase of the mean temperatures and (b) proves an alternative hypothesis to human industrial/agricultural activity being a major contributor to this increase? Not investors.com nor forbes.com, but a real scientific journal.

PS. Yes, I have downloaded the data from GISS and it looks pretty convincing to me.
 
Quote from gwb-trading:

Go read the other theads. In the 1970s there was plenty of panic about global cooling that was going to cause the next ice age by year 2000. This was constantly covered in the media with plenty of scientists predicting calamity unless action was taken immediately (meaning to fund them more). In the 1970s global cooling was taught as an 'accepted fact' in K-12 science classes and at universities. In my case, 'global cooling' was part of the New York State Regents agenda and taught as a certain fact in our earth science classes.

Do you see the similarities...
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I did not grow up in the US so I can't comment.

As for the current climate change rhetoric, most of it is bullshit but it's hard to tell which part is bullshit coming from the academic community (grants are an important incentive) and which part is coming from the "fossil fuel" business community (a possible tax or a regulation-induced decrease in consumption is an incentive too). Overall, the signal-to-noise ratio is not that different from any economic theories, every pundit has an axe to grind.

My approach to these things is always to look at the data which I did for this particular case and the numbers were pretty compelling.
 
Quote from jem:

boy you are brainless.

CO2 has gone up.
CO2 could have gone up as part of earths cycles.

Finding a portion of man made CO2 in the environment does not mean man releasing CO2 caused accumulation. Why did the rest of man made CO2 get processed and not cause more accumulation?

Cutting down rain forests could have caused the accumulation.
The Sun or the tides could have caused the accumulation.
Cows, the size of the population - lots of things could have caused the accumulation of CO2.
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Maybe you can't read. I've told you several times now. The extra CO2 has been proven to be from man. By multiple methods including isotope analysis. Do you really think we can pump 9 billion tons per year into the air and it'll just go away? Do you really think this chart shows a "natural release of CO2" ? If you do you're crazier than I thought.

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