Climate alarmist starting young

AAAintheBeltway said:
Yeah, great idea, what could possibly go wrong? I'm sure any such body will reflect the will of the American people and have our best interests at heart, or will those too be a casualty of the war on energy use?
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Good point. Policy should reflect the will of the people. Congressional approval polls of less than 20% show the vast majority of people feel their legislators are not working for them.

We have a critical environmental problem and too little is being done to address it, right? Anyone can draw a trend line on species populations and reach a conclusion if nothing is done, extinction is a possibility. Other than some limited genetic engineering magic, once a species goes extinct, it can’t come back. Cause and effect: Human population has gone hyperbolic while other species have experienced population declines. Would it be a fair conclusion that human population growth has been a stressor on the environment and well being of other species? Speaking of hyperbolic growth, what almost always happens after hyperbolic growth? Decline. Rapid decline that is often nearly symmetrical to the rise.

In the final analysis, the species we are trying to save is our own. Is this worth paying an extra buck or two per gallon of gas or megawatt?
 
maximumpossiblesuffering said:
In the final analysis, the species we are trying to save is our own. Is this worth paying an extra buck or two per gallon of gas or megawatt?
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No, for two reasons. One is that your parade of horribles is pure speculation. Of course there are countries where environmental stewardship is appalling. To go from there to we are all going to become extinct strikes me as quite a reach however.

Two, even if these dire environmental predictions come to pass, which has not been the case despite decades of screeching, the costs of mitigation will undoubtedly be far less than some idiotic green new deal.
 
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St. Greta Spreads the Climate Gospel
A movement that believes in sin, penance and salvation doesn’t sound very scientific
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Swedish 16-year-old activist Greta Thunberg poses for a portrait after completing her trans-Atlantic crossing in order to attend a United Nations summit on climate change in New York, U.S., August 28, 2019.PHOTO: ANDREW KELLY/REUTERS

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Gerard Baker

Sept. 20, 2019 10:21 am ET
It’s been noted before that the cause of addressing climate change has become something like the modern world’s version of a secular religion. In much of Europe especially, but in sections of American society too, a kind of climate theology has replaced traditional Christianity as the ultimate source of authority over human behavior, comprising both an all-embracing teleology of our existence and a prescriptive moral code.

The High Church of Environmentalism has acquired many of the characteristics of its ecclesiastical predecessor. An apocalyptic eschatology warns that we will all be consumed by fire if we don’t follow the ordained rules. The notion that it is our sinful nature that has brought us to mortal peril—from the Original Sin of a carbon-unleashing industrial revolution to daily transgressions with plastic bottles and long-haul flights—is as central to its message as it was to the Catholic Church’s. But repentance is near. A gospel of redemption emphasizes that salvation lies in reducing our carbon footprint, with reusable shopping bags and bike-sharing. The secular authorities preach the virtues of abstinence. Meatless Fridays are no longer just for Lenten observance.

Now its proponents will scoff, of course, and say there’s a critical difference: The climate imperative is science-based, the opposite of religion. Its bishops are Nobel-winners; its biblical texts are peer-reviewed papers. But most people who express strong adherence to the climate change gospel know and understand as much about the science of carbon emissions or the greenhouse effect as the average medieval villager understood about the Creation or trans-substantiation.

In the iconography of traditional religion, children have often played a central role. The revelation of universal truth to an innocent child is an inspiring story that is very effective in both offering role models and propagating the faith. There’s a reason the European faithful used to venerate St. Therese of Lisieux, St. Bernadette of Lourdes, the children of Fatima in Portugal: The testimony of a guileless child is a powerful weapon against skepticism.

Like the children of Fatima, Greta Thunberg has a simple message that, if followed, promises to save the world from catastrophe.

Enter the Swedish 16-year-old Greta Thunberg, now come amongst us in New York for Climate Week. Her story is compelling: It recalls that of St. Bernadette, exposed to the truth as a child and animated with a passionate mission to share it with the rest of humanity. As with child saints of the conventional type, Ms. Thunberg has overcome and indeed channeled personal challenges (she calls her autism a “superpower” rather than a disability) and has proved a remarkable inspiration to fellow teenagers throughout the world.

Like the children of Fatima, she has a simple message that, if followed, promises to save the world from catastrophe. And now we have the near miraculous spectacle of her sailing across the Atlantic without emitting a molecule of carbon dioxide. Well, almost: It seems that perhaps there was some climate-altering emission involved after all. But it was a brilliant stunt. She could not have made a bigger impact if she’d walked across.

None of this is to denigrate Ms. Thunberg. She’s clearly a sincere and talented young woman who has dedicated herself to what she believes to be the highest moral cause. Agree or disagree with “climate crisis” rhetoric and some of the methods deployed in its name, but one can’t help being impressed by her diligence in pursuit of duty and principle in an age with so many less wholesome activities for teenagers.


Still, there is something about this near-religious fervor among the climate change activists—a growing fanaticism—that recalls some of the more troubling traits of extreme religious cults. Its status now as almost universally accepted doctrine risks precluding necessary debates about practicalities and policies. If human extinction is really only decades away, as some activists claim, the implications are millenarian
 
traderob said:
None of this is to denigrate Ms. Thunberg. She’s clearly a sincere and talented young woman who has dedicated herself to what she believes to be the highest moral cause. Agree or disagree with “climate crisis” rhetoric and some of the methods deployed in its name, but one can’t help being impressed by her diligence in pursuit of duty and principle in an age with so many less wholesome activities for teenagers.
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Obligatory passage to insulate author from being banned on grounds of child attack.
 
traderob said:

St. Greta Spreads the Climate Gospel
A movement that believes in sin, penance and salvation doesn’t sound very scientific
B3-FA370_BAKER_P_20190919145624.jpg

Swedish 16-year-old activist Greta Thunberg poses for a portrait after completing her trans-Atlantic crossing in order to attend a United Nations summit on climate change in New York, U.S., August 28, 2019.PHOTO: ANDREW KELLY/REUTERS

SHARE

By


Gerard Baker

Sept. 20, 2019 10:21 am ET
It’s been noted before that the cause of addressing climate change has become something like the modern world’s version of a secular religion. In much of Europe especially, but in sections of American society too, a kind of climate theology has replaced traditional Christianity as the ultimate source of authority over human behavior, comprising both an all-embracing teleology of our existence and a prescriptive moral code.

The High Church of Environmentalism has acquired many of the characteristics of its ecclesiastical predecessor. An apocalyptic eschatology warns that we will all be consumed by fire if we don’t follow the ordained rules. The notion that it is our sinful nature that has brought us to mortal peril—from the Original Sin of a carbon-unleashing industrial revolution to daily transgressions with plastic bottles and long-haul flights—is as central to its message as it was to the Catholic Church’s. But repentance is near. A gospel of redemption emphasizes that salvation lies in reducing our carbon footprint, with reusable shopping bags and bike-sharing. The secular authorities preach the virtues of abstinence. Meatless Fridays are no longer just for Lenten observance.

Now its proponents will scoff, of course, and say there’s a critical difference: The climate imperative is science-based, the opposite of religion. Its bishops are Nobel-winners; its biblical texts are peer-reviewed papers. But most people who express strong adherence to the climate change gospel know and understand as much about the science of carbon emissions or the greenhouse effect as the average medieval villager understood about the Creation or trans-substantiation.

In the iconography of traditional religion, children have often played a central role. The revelation of universal truth to an innocent child is an inspiring story that is very effective in both offering role models and propagating the faith. There’s a reason the European faithful used to venerate St. Therese of Lisieux, St. Bernadette of Lourdes, the children of Fatima in Portugal: The testimony of a guileless child is a powerful weapon against skepticism.

Like the children of Fatima, Greta Thunberg has a simple message that, if followed, promises to save the world from catastrophe.

Enter the Swedish 16-year-old Greta Thunberg, now come amongst us in New York for Climate Week. Her story is compelling: It recalls that of St. Bernadette, exposed to the truth as a child and animated with a passionate mission to share it with the rest of humanity. As with child saints of the conventional type, Ms. Thunberg has overcome and indeed channeled personal challenges (she calls her autism a “superpower” rather than a disability) and has proved a remarkable inspiration to fellow teenagers throughout the world.

Like the children of Fatima, she has a simple message that, if followed, promises to save the world from catastrophe. And now we have the near miraculous spectacle of her sailing across the Atlantic without emitting a molecule of carbon dioxide. Well, almost: It seems that perhaps there was some climate-altering emission involved after all. But it was a brilliant stunt. She could not have made a bigger impact if she’d walked across.

None of this is to denigrate Ms. Thunberg. She’s clearly a sincere and talented young woman who has dedicated herself to what she believes to be the highest moral cause. Agree or disagree with “climate crisis” rhetoric and some of the methods deployed in its name, but one can’t help being impressed by her diligence in pursuit of duty and principle in an age with so many less wholesome activities for teenagers.


Still, there is something about this near-religious fervor among the climate change activists—a growing fanaticism—that recalls some of the more troubling traits of extreme religious cults. Its status now as almost universally accepted doctrine risks precluding necessary debates about practicalities and policies. If human extinction is really only decades away, as some activists claim, the implications are millenarian
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TYPICAL FAKE news; saint+ sin + salvation sentence is full of fake news errors. For starters the Bible never used saint in singular.Gospel means good news, with all due respect, can the liberal loons get anything right??

FOX news had a different point of view , calling her mentally ill + later apologized for that.WHY apologize ??:cool::cool: :cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:
 
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