CL Redux

Fed's QE3 Is the Drug the Market Craves

Robert Holmes

08/10/11 - 11:04 AM EDT

BOSTON (TheStreet) -- The Federal Reserve has turned into the ultimate pusher, and quantitative easing is the drug that investors want badly. The question now is whether any good would come of allowing the central bank to continue to enable the markets.

Witness Tuesday's dramatic sell-off following the latest statement on interest rates, which was followed by a dramatic surge into the closing bell and an equally dramatic plunge at the open Wednesday. The Dow Jones Industrial Average, which rocketed higher by more than 250 points in the last half hour of trading Tuesday, gave back that gain and more.

"You have effectively taken those gains away and we are where we traded yesterday before the Fed announcement," says Paul Nolte, director of investment with Dearborn Partners in Chicago. "Should we have rallied 400 points on the Dow? No. We're right back to focusing on debt issues and the unrest in England. Those things below the surface are indicative of a larger problem that we aren't solving."

However, investors still believe in the implicit guarantee, or the so-called "Bernanke put," that the Fed will purchase Treasuries in order to keep prices afloat. In its statement, the central bank said it will leave interest rates low until mid-2013 as economic growth has been "considerably slower" than the Fed expected.

"The Committee will regularly review the size and composition of its securities holdings and is prepared to adjust those holdings as appropriate," the statement from the Federal Open Market Committee reads. "The Committee discussed the range of policy tools available to promote a stronger economic recovery in a context of price stability."

Those promises seemed to be the wink and nod that investors had been hoping for. It wasn't an explicit promise, but it was enough to boost equity markets on Tuesday.

"The markets are addicted to that heroin, so to speak," says Lance Roberts, chief strategist at Streettalk Advisors. "The markets know they have that 'Bernanke put' in place. You didn't have a direct statement in terms of 'we're going to start QE3.' Saying that the economy is weaker than they anticipated is a set-up statement for QE3."

The expectation now is that Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke and the central bank will follow the same script as 2010. Last year, equities sold off sharply heading into summer as economic activity weakened. The Fed at first held off from promising more quantitative easing before Bernanke made a speech in Jackson Hole, Wyo., during the Fed's annual symposium. Investors now expect a sequel one year later, with Bernanke set to address the Fed conference Aug. 26.

"The announcement, if we get one, will come around Jackson Hole later this month," Roberts says. "The markets will respond much more favorably if they aren't anticipating it. The Fed left the markets wanting a little more Tuesday afternoon. It's exactly like last year."

The benefit of a third round of quantitative easing is questionable, which may help explain the plunge in equities Wednesday. Roberts notes that the market had a sigh of relief temporarily, but he argues there will be very little impact in terms of the economy. Instead, more quantitative easing will see a smaller impact on the markets.

"In March 2009, everyone was convinced the world was going to end, so QE1 had a very big effect on the financial markets," Roberts says. "The second round of QE gave us some growth in the market but very little economic recovery at all. Each successive round of QE is having a law of diminishing return effect. You're getting less and less effect for every dollar of QE that's used. Eventually, QE will have no effect at all."

Dearborn's Nolte agrees and takes the analogy of quantitative easing as a drug further by noting the painful withdrawals that the market suffers after quantitative easing programs end. "QE1 and QE2 were artificial. When they come off -- ultimately it has to come off -- then you wind up with the pain that we're suffering with now and what we suffered with last year," he says.

Nolte adds that the quantitative-easing measures to date and any future programs will ultimately be ineffective because the Fed is not in a position where it can address the real problems of the economy.

"The QE process has not translated to better economic results because it's not fixing the problem that we have," Nolte says. "The Fed is injecting more into the banking system, not the economy. The overarching issue, both here and in Europe, is debt. The Fed can't do a damn thing about that. It has to come from the political side, and there is no will to address that."

Diane Swonk, chief economist with Mesirow Financial in Chicago, offers her own analogy for the quantitative-easing measures. "You could throw money out of a helicopter, but if it gets stuck in the trees and people can't pick it up, they can't spend it," she says. "It's the private sector that has failed to step up to the plate as government spending has faltered."

"It's back to reality. And reality sucks, but it's exactly what we need," says Michael Pento, senior economist with Euro Pacific Capital. "Bernanke was correct that oil prices and inflation were going to be transitory. But what has proved to also be transitory is economic growth and gains in the stock market."

Pento argues that the U.S. never actually emerged from a recession and that the negative growth was only masked by inflating the consumption bubble.

"You can only juggle that for a limited period of time," he says. "We have an economy that was and still is mired in debt. We have a debt-to-GDP ratio at 92%, double what was in the 1980s. The only thing that happens when you have an overleveraged economy, you need a period of deflation and deleveraging. It's very painful and it causes asset prices and GDP to plummet, but that's part of the healing process to bring things back into balance."

-- Written by Robert Holmes in Boston.
 
Just talked to my broker and he agreed to rewind the market back to the lows so we can have another chance to enter. Thoughtful guy. :) Missed most of the pops today. Head's just not in it. It's cool. Doing great lately so I can afford a day off more or less.

Here's an article about the banks.

Europe Markets

Aug. 10, 2011, 12:13 p.m. EDT

European stocks tumble, led by French banks
Downgrade worries hit French lenders; Henkel, Standard Life rise

By Simon Kennedy, MarketWatch

LONDON (MarketWatch) — European stocks tumbled Wednesday, as growing fears over France’s triple-A credit rating triggered a plunge in banking shares, with Societe Generale dropping nearly 15% in Paris.

The benchmark equity indexes in France, Germany, and Spain all slumped more than 5%. Italy’s FTSE MIB index (MCI:XX:FTSEMIB) fared even worse, sinking 6.7% to 14,676.04.

By the close of European trading, the Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJI-DJIA) was down more than 400 points.

With the euro-zone debt crisis again taking center stage, the pan-European Stoxx 600 index (STX:XX:SXXP) fell 3.8% to end at 223.50.

Nomura Securities Chief Economist David Resler reacts to the Federal Reserve's pledge to hold interest rates near zero until mid-2013 and explains why he doesn't believe the U.S. economy will fall back into recession.

“The whole issue of debt sustainability has broadened to Italy, Spain and even France. It will be something that remains a dead weight on markets for a long time,” said Mike Lenhoff, chief strategist at Brewin Dolphin.

French banks led the fall in Europe, including a 14.7% slump for Societe Generale (EPA:FR:GLE) , a 9.5% drop for BNP Paribas (EPA:FR:BNP) and a nearly 12% tumble for Credit Agricole (EPA:FR:ACA) .

A London trader, who did not want to be named, said there had been rumors of a downgrade of France‘s triple-A credit rating.

Worries over the sustainability of France‘s rating have been growing since Standard & Poor‘s downgraded the U.S., sending the cost of insuring French government debt against default to new highs. Earlier Wednesday, French President Nicolas Sarkozy held an unscheduled meeting with ministers and the governor of the Bank of France to discuss the financial situation.

The losses for French banks pulled the CAC-40 index (ENX:FR:PX1) down 5.5% to 3,002.99.

Other banks, especially those in Italy and Spain, also suffered heavy losses. UniCredit SpA (MCI:IT:UCG) and Intesa Sanpaolo (MCI:IT:ISP) dropped 9.4% and 13.7% respectively in Milan.

Shares of Banco Santander (MCE:ES:SAN) fell 8.3% in Madrid, weighing on the IBEX 35 index (MCE:XX:IBEX) , which closed down 5.5% at 7,966.
Henkel, Standard Life rise

The sharp downturn for banking stocks weighed on all markets, though well-received earnings news helped boost several stocks.

Among them, shares in Germany‘s Henkel AG (FRA-DE:HEN3) rose 2.7% after the household products group lifted its sales forecast to the top end of its previous range and said its second-quarter profit jumped 34%.

The stock was one of the few gainers on Germany’s DAX 30 index (ITF-DX-DAX) , which dropped 5.1% to 5,613.42.

Shares in electricity utility E.On AG (FRA-DE:EOAN) sank 11% in Frankfurt after the company cut its forecasts and dividend payout due to Germany’s plan to shut down all its nuclear power stations. The group said up to 11,000 jobs may be lost. Also in the sector, shares of RWE AG (FRA-DE:RWE) dropped 9.7%.

In the U.K., life insurance and investments firm Standard Life PLC (LSS:UK:SL) rallied 5.7% after it reported a 44% rise in first-half operating profit that comfortably beat market expectations.

The stock was the top performer on the FTSE 100 index (FTI:UK:UKX) , which dropped 3.1% to 5,007.16.

The biggest faller was Essar Energy PLC (LSS:UK:ESSR) , which fell 12.6% after Goldman Sachs removed the stock from its conviction buy list, saying there are better opportunities elsewhere in the sector.

U.K. banks also joined the selloff, with Barclays PLC (LSS:UK:BARC) (NYSE:BCS) down 8.2%.

In other trading, shares of Kloeckner & Co. (FRA-DE:KCO) plunged nearly 26% after the German steel firm’s second-quarter results and guidance were well below market expectations.
 
After the first push up that I missed, I longed .94 on the rebound (1m EMA and VWAP) to .87, and took the profit at .17 for +30, and had no good reason to do so. I thought they would try to sell it off again so took what I could get. Then I missed the move to .20, tried a long at .70something only to BE. Blah.

I took a sim long at 80.40 at 11:15, with a 50 tick stop and a target of 82.50 ... Just as I get out and throw my intuition to the wind (as I said before, I was undecided and not sure about direction), we begin our move up. Wish I had held that one.
 
Quote from JoshDance:

After the first push up that I missed, I longed .94 on the rebound (1m EMA and VWAP) to .87, and took the profit at .17 for +30, and had no good reason to do so. I thought they would try to sell it off again so took what I could get. Then I missed the move to .20, tried a long at .70something only to BE. Blah.

I took a sim long at 80.40 at 11:15, with a 50 tick stop and a target of 82.50 ... Just as I get out and throw my intuition to the wind (as I said before, I was undecided and not sure about direction), we begin our move up. Wish I had held that one.
Tricky today. Lots of pressure but already has sold off a lot obviously.

BTW I'm long @.22
 
Quote from BCE:

I seem to not have been interested in taking that $400 profit which has now disappeared. :) Cheers. :)
This time I took the $400 profit @.62 . :) Now it will go to 83. :) It retraces so quickly. Snooze you lose except for sometime when it breaks higher obviously.

ADD: Guess I did the right thing but should have flipped it. :)
 
Too much. :D All of that waiting and could have made twice as much flipping it and then closing that and buying it back at essentially the same price and ride it back. And all that in 3 mins. :) CSW = coulda shoulda woulda
 
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fwiw, few folks at stocktwits are looking to go short around 82. good luck.
Do you mean by few "a few" or "hardly any"? :)
 
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