CL Redux

Thanks for the compliments and appreciations. :) I do what I can to share what I see, what I do, and what I've learned. And other people here do the same. NoDoji in particular comes to mind, but there are many others and some right here in this thread. All for one and one for all. :) I don't have time right this second to answer everyone's query, but I'll try to get to some in the next few days.

Here's an interesting document discussing the rules of the Turtle Traders. There are a lot of really good points here, not all of which I follow exactly as they're presented, but I do use some of them in my own way so to speak. But to be clear, my trading style isn't based on this system. It just incorporates some of the rules which are common to all profitable trading methods.

https://www.bsp-capital.com/documents/turtlerules.pdf

Some points made are:

Stops – When to get out of a losing position

Traders who do not cut their losses will not be successful in the long term. The most important thing about cutting your losses is to predefine the point where you will get out before you enter a position.
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Most of the trades that the Turtles made resulted in losses. If the winning trades did not earn enough on average to offset these losses, the Turtles would have lost money.
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“There are old traders; and there are bold traders; but there are no old bold traders.” Traders that don’t use stops go broke. The Turtles always used stops.
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Here's the Wikipedia entry for Turtle Traders - Richard Dennis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtle_Traders
 
Quote from Visaria:

Nice performance there, BCE.

I had one of my best weeks, +600 ticks, less than 10 trades!!!

I'm going to take a break for a while, back (hopefully) in August.

Good trading all.
That's really great V! Outstanding! I knew you had a great week. Happy 4U. :) Enjoy your break. You've well earned it.

Got to go. Have a great weekend all.
 
07/17/2011 13:14 *DJ Mubarak In A Coma: State TV


It probably means the facial reconstruction is complete and he'll assume a new life in some paradise :eek:
 
Quote from ammo:

whats your profit target and stop size
Hi :)

You know the profit targets and stop size depends on where CL is trading in a chart pattern. If CL is moving up to resistance levels and I decide to go long to see if it will break through, a common trade would have me up a few ticks right away and I may have set the initial stop at 5 ticks, but I move it up pretty quickly to b/e. If I'm trying to find a bottom I'll give it more leeway.

But I generally move stops to b/e quickly. If I'm stopped out I can usually reenter if I see my initial thought seems to have been correct. It also depends on if I'm scalping or looking at a larger time frame. And it also depends on how far CL has moved in one direction or the other in a given time frame.

And also I'm looking at other factors in real time that may affect CL. And I'm "feeling" the rhythm of CL in the DOM as it trades and sensing how strongly its pushing to continue its current direction or if it's losing steam and weakening.

And I'm definitely not attached to "being right" about the trades I try. I'm just putting on trades and then they're under immediate scrutiny to see how they go. And I'm happy to change my mind quickly and reverse course and maybe flip the trade. I'm not afraid to take small losses.

One thing I want to work on more is I sometimes get too caught up in looking at 1 min charts which can be good for entries. But I need to look more at bigger time frame charts as far as extending my profits on trades which turn out to be more that scalps. And also do this to look for profit targets.

Here's an example from last month of one that I did well on and this is more what I'm looking for. But I might have taken the $400 profit and then reentered on the pullback, with a stop at my original entry. And then looking at the chart again, I might have taken the $800 too once it was there and then reentered on that pullback. Just working at refining my exits on winning trades. :)
 

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Quote from BCE:

Hi :)


And I'm definitely not attached to "being right" about the trades I try. I'm just putting on trades and then they're under immediate scrutiny to see how they go. And I'm happy to change my mind quickly and reverse course and maybe flip the trade. I'm not afraid to take small losses.


BCE,

Some really great points in this post. From my limited experience in CL, I have seen taking many small losses in CL will be offset by the big winners by a handsome margin.

Wolf
 
Quote from ZEAK:

Trading the Sept. contract.

Short @ 97.21

SAR is at 97.70. A contract will be added if SAR is hit.

Target is EOD.

SAR is now a STOP and is BE +.10
 
Quote from BCE:

Hi :) L@.92 stop b/e
Out @.22 = +30t and Now L@.25 :) but stopped @ b/e :)

Futures Movers

July 18, 2011, 12:13 p.m. EDT
Oil declines on rising dollar, debt worries

By Claudia Assis, MarketWatch

SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) — Crude-oil futures fell Monday on worries about the U.S. debt ceiling and the vulnerability of European banks to the region’s debt woes, with a higher U.S. dollar adding pressure.

Crude for August delivery (NMN:CL1Q) retreated $2, or 2.1%, to $95.19 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange.

Prices rallied Friday on a weaker dollar, and gained 1% last week.

Europe’s troubled outlook was helping the dollar on Monday, however. The dollar index (NYE:DXY) , which compares the U.S. unit to a basket of six currencies, traded at 75.597 from 75.148 late Friday.

A protracted debt-ceiling debate in Washington and, mainly, the European sovereign-debt crisis unfolding are the top reasons for the lower oil, said Matt Smith, an oil analyst with Summit Energy in Kentucky.

Investors fear a default for Spain or Italy, he added. These are bigger economies than the bailed-out Greece, Ireland and Portugal.

Results from Europe’s bank stress tests pressured oil. Some brokerages’ analyses of the tests, whose results were released Friday, concluded they were too lenient and that more banks would have failed if the regulators had factored in losses on sovereign debt. Read more on bank stress tests.

Worries about the economic recovery and potential for less demand for oil have kept prices mostly lower in recent weeks.

“Longer-term, we are bullish on oil. At some point, there will be much greater demand than available supply. But, our long-term bullish scenario in oil is largely predicated on a full-fledged global economic recovery,” analysts at Cameron Hanover said in a note to clients.

The world has never seen an economic recovery with crude-oil prices at more than $30, they added. “At $100 a barrel, we do not see how we can have a strong economic recovery in much of the world. And that makes demand unlikely to reach its potential,” the analysts said.

Brent oil, the European benchmark, held up better than oil trading on Nymex. Brent futures declined $1.50, or 1.3%, to $115.79 a barrel on ICE Futures in London.

European oil markets are still feeling the pinch from the loss of Libyan oil, even after the release of emergency reserves from member countries of the International Energy Agency, Summit Energy’s Smith said.

Other energy products traded lower Monday, with August gasoline (NMN:RB1Q) declining 4 cents, or 1.5%, to $3.08 a gallon.
 
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