CL Redux

Quote from Holey Grail:

Yeah, I've been manually trailing my stop and exiting only when my stop is hit. Which causes me to catch the big movers but leave alot on the table when the next S/R level actually holds. So, I'm doing a lot of thinking here.

This will probably be easier once I'm trading more than one car, but right now my choice seems to be to take 20 or so ticks or trail the stop and maybe get 12 or maybe get 50.

If it's clear that a move has some momentum behind it I sometimes use the 1-min chart to trail my stop until my profit target zone is reached at which point I tighten it up. Using the 1-min chart to trail, my rule of thumb is if a good strong move (like the pit open breakout this morning, or the bull flag failure from 11:00am ET a while ago) I trail the bars; if it's a more back-and-fill move, I use the 1-min 20-EMA as a guide.
 
Quote from Holey Grail:

NoDoji, when you are in a trade where you haven't moved your initial stop, how do you exit? I.e., limit order or market order?

When I trade counter to a strong trend for a pullback to a key level, I often have a hard target. With the trend I target each next support or resistance level in line to be tested, always expecting at least one new high or low from the previous one. This morning I took a re-entry long @ 106.02 for the next breakout and I had 60-min R levels noted from pre-market prep: 106.21 (that level made the trade worth taking IMHO), 106.46, 106.69, 106.78, 107.08, etc.

If a level breaks with conviction, I hold for the next one. This morning each level broke nicely, but 106.78 just didn't quite make it, so I exit approximately 10 ticks from the price that was either a weak break of a level, or a "close but no cigar" attempt at a level.
 
Quote from NoDoji:

I cross-reference the 1-min chart to try and get better entries with tighter survivable stops.

Unless you're chasing momentum where you expect a next level to break right away, or playing a breakout that you want to run and not fail and reverse, I suggest always leaving your initial stop in place unless a reversal pattern appears.

I got so frustrated cutting off good trades by moving my stop. Then the frustration causes you to chase at a bad price or put on dumb revenge trades. It's a bad habit that's well worth kicking!

I do look at the 1 min chart for stop placement. However, the resistance points are often 20 + ticks away, something I'm uncomfortable with. The idea of entry using 1 min, anticipating a breakout together with a stop based on that time frame is v interesting. I'll definitely look into that, many thanks.

As for the moving a stop to b/e, your recommending only moving it once you see some reversal/ resistance? I've moving it once the trade has a certain amount of profits.
 
Quote from Visaria:

I do look at the 1 min chart for stop placement. However, the resistance points are often 20 + ticks away, something I'm uncomfortable with.
Well, I just wait to enter until the resistance points are much closer. My mantra is "don't mess around in the middle"--i.e., enter on bounces from (or breaks through) clear S/R.
 
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