CL Redux

Quote from oraclewizard77:

This was actually a great call, a mark of true genius, you should have had a little more patience.

I went long at 84.13, had stop around 84.02, and got out at a profit at 84.23.



Oh kind sir, you’re to generous :D
 
Quote from Gabfly1:

I didn't say you did the wrong thing. Just that you shorted at 84.30, placed a protective stop at 84.56 and a profit target way down below at 83.65. Price hit neither the stop loss nor the profit target, however, you exited. Again, I'm not saying you did the wrong thing. I'm just questioning the utility of the predetermined profit target.
Understood. But you seem to forget that I've been in this trade since 12:00 EST. Ask any daytrader what their average holding time is. Having both stop loss and price target is important but you must also abide by rigorous time constraints (aka time stop) as well.

What's worse, it wasn't going down and the damn price was flattening out. So I bailed out.
 
Quote from schizo:

Understood. But you seem to forget that I've been in this trade since 12:00 EST. Ask any daytrader what their average holding time is. Having both stop loss and price target is important but you must also abide by rigorous time constraints (aka time stop) as well.

What's worse, it wasn't going down and the damn price was flattening out. So I bailed out.
No argument there. I would have done the same. But the profit target appears to be a useless device. Hypothetically, if price reached your profit target and the price continued to show weakness, I'm guessing you'd likely hang on to your short. If price showed some firmness or indecisiveness well before the profit target, as it did in this case, you would have looked for an earlier exit, which you did. In both cases, the target serves as a rather meaningless reference point, wouldn't you say?
 
Quote from Gabfly1:

In both cases, the target serves as a rather meaningless reference point, wouldn't you say?

I'm a firm believer that prices move to and fro one pivot to another for a reason. That's my modus operandi. I would have bailed out if the PT were hit. No question about it.

Nevertheless, don't expect me to give away my edge, if that's what your aiming for. Not a chance! :D
 
Quote from schizo:

I'm a firm believer that prices move to and fro one pivot to another for a reason. That's my modus operandi. I would have bailed out if the PT were hit. No question about it.

Nevertheless, don't expect me to give away my edge, if that's what your aiming for. Not a chance! :D
No, I would not expect you or anyone here to divulge how they trade. (And I'd probably disagree with the approach anyway. :D ) I was just limiting my point to the utility of profit targets. However, if you find they give you value, who am I to discourage you?

P.S. Congrats on a good trade. I would not have held on. Of course, I don't trade CL, but I'm keeping an eye on it while NQ yawns. Educational purposes, and all that.
 
Quote from NoDoji:

Done with CL for the day, going to lunch.

I see the 50-tick drop coincided with my departure, and Schiz took advantage of that nearly flawless short signal (me leaving) :D

Quote from Gabfly1:

Of course, I don't trade CL, but I'm keeping an eye on it while NQ yawns. Educational purposes, and all that.

Hang around a barber shop long enough, you're going to get a haircut. :p
 
Quote from NoDoji:

I see the 50-tick drop coincided with my departure, and Schiz took advantage of that nearly flawless short signal (me leaving) :D

Girl, you need to leave more often. :p
 
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