Morning I chased, and got stopped out at a loss on 2nd contract after I was able to average in and let 1st contract get out at BE.
After market close I put in a long order, I felt if this one which I considered a perfect trade, did not work, I was going back to just trading es.
Well, it worked, got 10 ticks or $ 100 real money. Just did 1 contract since was after hours.
Now I just need to not chase, only wait for perfect setups on cl, and have a stop and not move it farther away hoping it will not get filled.
For last trade, once trade moved in my favor, I moved stop a little bit up so it was below low candle. When I entered in trade, I had a wider stop since I did not want to get spiked out of a winning trade, but felt once the market moved in my favor if it for some reason decided to reverse, it would probably take me out. Also what helped in this last trade, was I took a break from looking at the screen since cl was moving real slow in after hours. This allowed me to stay in the trade instead of killing it. CL at least moved, ES seems frozen right now in after hours.
If you can get in on a trade in the right direction CL does seem to trend much better than ES with no pullbacks, but you want to wait to make sure you get in at the right price and in the right direction, if not its better to take the stop since if it reverses right where you get in, it can go 30 ticks or more against you pretty quickly.
With ES, the market seems to like to take 2 steps back before it goes higher so you can be a little slower and wait for a better price rather than jumping in on a trade unless market making new highs or lows on a real breakout.