CL Redux

Quote from schizo:

This is just effing crazy. I can see how it rolled over at 84.42 but everyone dumps at the same time?!

Why the hell didn't they do that when I was short? LOL

They needed to trigger some buystops so they could get some short inventory. Also camouflage selling on an upbar.
 
Kept trying to short CL with a 8 - 10 tick stop on break of candle around 85.10 and kept getting stopped out. For example, saw CL at 85.25, put a limit order in at 85.15 with a 8 tick stop hoping to catch a breakdown. As soon as order fills, market goes back up and stops me out.

Finally, I put an order in to short 2 contracts at 85.05 hoping the market would break 85.00 and continue to fall to my target of 84.90. I then gave myself a wider stop. As market hit close of ES futures, I killed 1 contract at BE since I did not want to have 2 contracts over night. Then market again went against me but this time did not hit my stop, it finally reversed and when it broke 85.00, it hit speed since like I thought all stops for longs were below that level, and I got out at a profit for last trade but still down for the day.

Next time I really think I need to just place the order market short or long when I think market is going to go in my direction instead of trying to be clever. If I did that on the 1st order, I would have had a profitable day.
 
Quote from schizo:

This is just effing crazy. I can see how it rolled over at 84.42 but everyone dumps at the same time?!

Why the hell didn't they do that when I was short? LOL

These monster moves always happen about 7.8 seconds after I leave my office. Always. I'm gonna start pretending to leave and sneak back in from now on.
 
Quote from NoDoji:

We've had 3 pushes up from lows, including a measured move, but haven't tested pre-market R yet, so I'm waiting for confirmation before shorting.

ADD: Bears seemed to have gone back in their cave here.

NoDoji, if I may, what would have been your stop loss on
the 82.7 buy earlier?? Below the 82.51 low or more tight? Good next day come back btw.

thx
 
Quote from oraclewizard77:

Kept trying to short CL with a 8 - 10 tick stop on break of candle around 85.10 and kept getting stopped out. For example, saw CL at 85.25, put a limit order in at 85.15 with a 8 tick stop hoping to catch a breakdown. As soon as order fills, market goes back up and stops me out.

Your pricing is off. Also, your term "limit order" I think is off. If price is @ XX.25 and you enter a limit sell order @ XX.15, it's filled immediately. Do you mean a sell stop order?

If you keep getting stopped out as you say, then you are most likely fighting the trend (as happened to me yesterday). Those little pullbacks are where all the top-picking shorts get trapped and all the trend-following longs pile in to ride the short fuel.

Can you post a chart?
 
Quote from NoDoji:

These monster moves always happen about 7.8 seconds after I leave my office. Always. I'm gonna start pretending to leave and sneak back in from now on.
Yup. One of these days, I'm going to pretend that I've entered long and throw in a short order. :D
 
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