CL Redux

Quote from schizo:

Thanks for the detailed explanation. I invite you to swing on by during the trading hours and get this ball rolling. Who knows? We could get the analysis going while the market is open. How's that for a change? :)

Can't we all just get on Skype and argue about setups in real time?
 
Quote from schizo:

Thanks for the detailed explanation. I invite you to swing on by during the trading hours and get this ball rolling. Who knows? We could get the analysis going while the market is open. How's that for a change? :)

I got nothing but time tomorrow :cool:

I will be trading and posting. Looking forward to it, havent watched a chart tick since last friday. Im liking the conversation we have going now. I say lets keep it up.
 
Quote from schizo:

Forget the right portion of the chart and look only at what has transpired thus far. You would see that the current candle, after making a new LOD, pierced right back above the previous low made at 2. To me that shows strength. Had we one more upthrust, I have no doubt this baby would have shot for the moon. But then again... :D

How do you enter in that market?. Fade the tails?. The intrabar noise looks huge compared to the trends.
 
Quote from NoDoji:

Can't we all just get on Skype and argue about setups in real time?

Id be down for some Skyping. Sometimes I post realtime trading thoughts on my facebook too.
 
Looking at the chart and not my indicators especially since I have been trading es and don't have cl setup.

1) Close to previous high, short seems good there and it did work out.

2) Although it worked out, I would not have bought there unless I had an indicator telling me to go long since I can not tell market made bottom.

3) There is no number 3, suggesting a lack of ability to count by person posting chart or trader is sniffing coke or downing shots when he or she trades. For future reference 3 comes after 2 and before 4.

4) Market looks like it hit a trend line and is bouncing off of it, so good entry, if you felt market was in downtrend, you could have stop of either last spike high for conservative, or above number 1 if you want a more loose stop in order to prevent getting stopped out or if you planned to average in if it went back up to 1.

5) Yes, you thought it might double bottom, but I would have stop right under that since if this support broke, it was going lower which did happen.

6) You were bottom picking, I don't like this play unless I had my indicator tell me that market was getting oversold at that point. Also, vol not included so we can't tell anything and I would not have taken that trade just based on the chart.

7) I think I would have been looking for market to go back up to 4) and just based on the chart I would not have taken it, but if you did stop above 4 would have been ok.

8) You saw market reversing back up, for this trade I would only have taken it with my indicators since my problem is you could have been chasing, but overall good buy.

9) I guess you had your coke break, and got confused again like in number 3, maybe indicating over trading or not posting since it was a losing trade.

10) & 11) both good trades even though your labeling of 11 before 10 indicates that the drugs are still in your system. Yes, I would have taken 1 of those trades and hoped I was not stubborn if they did not work out, stop could have been a little above but with enough room in case someone was stop hunting. I would target 12 as the exit or target price.

12) I would have exited here but not reversed.

13) You got 2 of them, I am not going to comment.

14) No, I would not have taken it, looks like a wild guess.

15) I do like it as a possible double bottom. I would take it in real money if I woke up late and did not take the other trades. I would sim it if I already had a good day.

All drug references should be taken as joking :-)

Quote from schizo:

Alright folks, to continue with the exercise from yesterday, here's the chart of today's PA. The yellow and blue boxes indicate the sell and buy areas, respectively. Please give your input as to why those places were chosen and, moreover, are they good or bad in your opinion.

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Quote from oraclewizard77:

3) There is no number 3, suggesting a lack of ability to count by person posting chart or trader is sniffing coke or downing shots when he or she trades. For future reference 3 comes after 2 and before 4.

All drug references should be taken as joking :-)
Now, c'mon, only drug I can afford to snort at my age is either a prozac to sooth my nerve or viagra for reasons you already know. :D

Thanks for stopping by nonetheless.
 
Quote from F112358:

How do you enter in that market?. Fade the tails?. The intrabar noise looks huge compared to the trends.
The tail portion was already made at the time of the entry, so what you're looking at is a white slim body on top of a long tail (aka hammer). Doesn't that sound bullish, especially if the previous candle also had a long tail? It does to me.
 
Quote from schizo:

The tail portion was already made at the time of the entry, so what you're looking at is a white slim body on top of a long tail (aka hammer). Doesn't that sound bullish, especially if the previous candle also had a long tail? It does to me.

I was asking a general question, not in any particular trade. In the chart you posted, all entries seem to be fading tails (i.e. fading the "noise" in the direction of what you perceive as trend).

It seems to me that's a very hard thing to do (i.e.: I can't do it) in real time.

My observation is that the noise/signal (chop range/trend) in this CL market is too big, and trading within the noise is a very good skill to have. Maybe I can learn from you how to do it?. I'm sure it'll come in handy.
 
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