Civil discourse on gun control

[Tsing Tao]

Clip size and penetration I think would be important factors. Number of rounds that can be fired without reloading needs to be looked at. Would you agree? Barrel length, ease of concealment. All factors that it would seem need to be considered. That must be why, for example, barrel length crops up prominently in the Canadian regs. I think they have outlawed those little small caliper handguns that fit in a ladies purse or you can tuck under your belt. Must have to do with how easily concealed and transported, I would guess. If we're going to allow semiautomatics then we need to regulate clip size or how many rounds the gun can hold. I just look at it from a probability standpoint. What to do to reduce the probability of a lot of people being killed by a single lunatic with a gun, without trampling on our "inalienable" right to own and use firearms.

So you're against the "clips" (please use the word magazine so you don't sound like someone who just got into the gun debate) having extra capacity? As for concealment, pistol is far easier to conceal. Barrel length?

As for reducing the probability that a single lunatic with a gun can kill a lot of people, why not go after the lunatics instead of the inanimate objects?

 

[piezoe]

So you're against the "clips" (please use the word magazine so you don't sound like someone who just got into the gun debate) having extra capacity? As for concealment, pistol is far easier to conceal. Barrel length?

As for reducing the probability that a single lunatic with a gun can kill a lot of people, why not go after the lunatics instead of the inanimate objects?

I can see and touch a gun. And I can tell it's a gun. I can see and touch a lunatic. But I can't tell it's a lunatic.

 

[volente_00]

Weapons typically used by military forces? Do you mean automatic weapons? Those have been banned since 1934. What else are we talking about? Grenades or something?

Automatic weapons are not banned. If you want to pay for the stamp and can pass the background check you can still purchase them legally.

 

[volente_00]

How is the AR15 any deadlier than any other semi automatic firearm? Ie, why focus on that platform? Just because the media continues to drone around the label "AR 15"?

V TECH killer used 2 pistols to kill 32

 

[WeToddDid2]

This is a great speech. He does a great job of summarizing a lot of the right's position regarding gun control.

2018 03 02 Delegate Nick Freitas Speech on Floor of House of Delegates

 

[Cuddles]

How is the AR15 any deadlier than any other semi automatic firearm? Ie, why focus on that platform? Just because the media continues to drone around the label "AR 15"?

Mag capacity, round size, barrel length, ease of modifying to full auto, ease of reload. It's a platform designed to make the most lethal soldier (minus full auto). Let's not dismiss it as being anything but a handicapped military grade ar15.

 

[Poindexter]

Mag capacity, round size, barrel length, ease of modifying to full auto, ease of reload.

This is just silly. The same could be said about almost any semi-automatic weapon. Which leftists want to ban entirely. It's not about "the children," it's about the agenda.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2018/02/27/house-introduces-gun-ban-legislation-n2454670

But that can't happen all at once so you'll try an incremental approach. First the evil "assault weapons." Then the remaining semi-automatic weapons. If successful, revolvers will have to go too because leftists will claim something ridiculous like, "speedloaders can make them just like machine guns."

Don't laugh -- the foolishness on display now is a harbinger of just that kind of abject stupidity and demagoguery. This is only a small sample:
http://dailycaller.com/2018/03/01/l...kes-in-gun-reporting-how-much-do-they-matter/

It's a platform designed to make the most lethal soldier (minus full auto). Let's not dismiss it as being anything but a handicapped military grade ar15.

Do you know what the rifle below the AR-15 is? Of course not. If you did, you wouldn't have made this post (unless you're being disingenuous).

 

[gwb-trading]

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Obviously the weapon at the top should be banned. It looks scary.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Automatic weapons are not banned. If you want to pay for the stamp and can pass the background check you can still purchase them legally.

It's a little more than paying for a stamp and passing a background check with the ATF. Regardless, it is much, much more difficult to get an automatic rifle (not to mention impractical).

 

[Tsing Tao]

V TECH killer used 2 pistols to kill 32

Precisely my point. A skilled shooter in an opportune environment can cause a lot of damage with any weapon at all.