Civil discourse on gun control

Laws. Regulations. Make a law banning them. Easy.

"Make a Law banning them" is not specifics. How would you enforce such a law? Would you just put the law out there with no collection? No buy back? What would be the penalty?

Provide some information.
 
"Make a Law banning them" is not specifics. How would you enforce such a law? Would you just put the law out there with no collection? No buy back? What would be the penalty?

Provide some information.


Make a law, if you have one you can be arrested and jailed. Buyback? Yeah. Sales would be illegal. Australia did it so can we.
 
Make a law, if you have one you can be arrested and jailed. Buyback? Yeah. Sales would be illegal. Australia did it so can we.

Let's try again a different way, since you're avoiding specifics.

Before you can just start arresting people on the street for having a weapon, you have to offer a way for them to turn the guns in. What would be your suggested buyback program?
 
Laws. Regulations. Make a law banning them. Easy.



And then what? That pesky little constitutional amendment suddenly no longer exists?

What could go wrong in court with your plan? Just ignore the constitution and make a law that's really a law? I see.


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Why not look at countries that are doing it right? Norway has 35 guns per 100 residents. Not as many as the US which has 101 guns per 100 residents, but they only have .1 firearm related death per 100k residents vs our 3.5 deaths per 100k residents.

So is it less guns? Well Brazil only has 8 guns per 100 residents, but 19.99 firearm related deaths per 100k residents. So obviously less guns doesn't equal safer especially when you look at many african countries that have less than 1 gun per 100 residents.

I believe the problem is non-homogeneous culture/thinking. Norway is very homogeneous. Most of them think alike and agree alike. Brazil has lots of different cultures so their thinking isn't very homogeneous. America as of recent, with people losing their shit over politics, is showing we're probably heading toward more shootings(and that's probably why we've seen so many as of late.)

I know some are going to hate to hear this, but we really need to keep cultures that are different than our own from immigrating here until we can be a more like minded country. Let us all get on the same page and maybe just take people from countries we want our country to be like for the moment. If you want cultural enrichment from other countries, feel free to visit those countries, but stop any vastly different cultures from coming here. We also need to get republicans and democrats on the same page. Lets stop with bashing our leaders. And yes, I realize I'm really guilty of that too. I've bashed Obama and Pelosi, and I need to stop doing this...just like some of you need to stop bashing Trump. The more we Americans keep this up, the more likely another shooting will occur.
 
Let's try again a different way, since you're avoiding specifics.

Before you can just start arresting people on the street for having a weapon, you have to offer a way for them to turn the guns in. What would be your suggested buyback program?


We would buy them back. You make it seem like it's impossible.

Again, see what they did in Aus ? We do that. Except we can keep some guns.
 
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I think I'm probably one of the biggest supporters of gun ownership on the forum, but I also don't think I'm a mindless supporter. I will state my position here:

I support the right to personal owned firearms, provided a clear background check has been made on the individual owning the weapon. I support banning ex-convicts, people with mental disorders, people who have been convicted of spousal abuse, those under 21 (even though the law is 18 in many states for long guns). Those are my positions.

In this thread, I would ask that previous arguments and prejudices are left at the door. I will agree to do the same, and I will happily debate anyone here on what solutions are possible and what ones are not, if anyone is willing to step up to the plate and try for the other side of the argument.

Insults, snarky comments, and the inability to remain civil will mean you forfeit your position. If I do the same, I forfeit my position as well.

State what you believe and go into what you suggest would bring a notable difference to the country.


Im not anti gun, but i think Bump stocks definitely got to go, unless someone can convince me why its advantageous to be able to spray bullets at full auto wildly innacurately......... I just cant picure a scenario where a bumpstock would be advantageous in self defense, unless your Tony Montana, like do you want to know youve got a neighbour whose going to be using his bumpstock and a 30 shot clip to eliminate an intruder? I sure wouldnt want to live beside that it wouldnt make me feel safer.
 
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