City On The Edge Of Forever

Quote from Lucrum:

It is a walnut stock, I posted an internet photo. Mine actually has a walnut forearm as well. Currently only use it for riot control. Years ago I used to hunt with it.

That IS true I have .54 cal black powder rifle I just don't use it anymore.

Do you have anything else. Pistols, shotgun etc?
 
At what point do you intend to use your guns ?

1. A neighbour insults you or your family
2. Someone breaks into your house at night
3. Catch someone shagging your wife
4.That guy down the street who wears a turban thingy is giving you strange looks
5. Just to scare the neighbours
6.other

What's your breaking point ? Or are you like nitro, and have mental problems ?

A statistic that you probably don't want to know is that in the USA a gun owner is 22 times more likely to shoot himself or 1 of his family than an intruder.
 
Quote from Humpy:

At what point do you intend to use your guns ?

1. A neighbour insults you or your family
2. Someone breaks into your house at night
3. Catch someone shagging your wife
4.That guy down the street who wears a turban thingy is giving you strange looks
5. Just to scare the neighbours
6.other
1)No, that would be both stupid and illegal
2)Probably
3)No, that would be both stupid and illegal
4)No, that would be both stupid and illegal
5)No, that would be both stupid and illegal
6)Yes, provided it's not both stupid and illegal
What's your breaking point ?
Well on my 1911 it's set at around 4 lbs.
Or are you like nitro, and have mental problems ?
Not that I'm aware of

A statistic that you probably don't want to know is that in the USA a gun owner is 22 times more likely to shoot himself or 1 of his family than an intruder.
Here are a few more you may not know.

* A 1993 nationwide survey of 4,977 households found that over the previous five years, at least 0.5% of households had members who had used a gun for defense during a situation in which they thought someone "almost certainly would have been killed" if they "had not used a gun for protection." Applied to the U.S. population, this amounts to 162,000 such incidents per year. This figure excludes all "military service, police work, or work as a security guard."

* Based on survey data from the U.S. Department of Justice, roughly 5,340,000 violent crimes were committed in the United States during 2008. These include simple/aggravated assaults, robberies, sexual assaults, rapes, and murders.[13] [14] [15] Of these, about 436,000 or 8% were committed by offenders visibly armed with a gun.[16]

* Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.[18]

* A 1993 nationwide survey of 4,977 households found that over the previous five years, at least 3.5% of households had members who had used a gun "for self-protection or for the protection of property at home, work, or elsewhere." Applied to the U.S. population, this amounts to 1,029,615 such incidents per year. This figure excludes all "military service, police work, or work as a security guard."

* A 1994 survey conducted by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found that Americans use guns to frighten away intruders who are breaking into their homes about 498,000 times per year.[20]

* A 1982 survey of male felons in 11 state prisons dispersed across the U.S. found:
• 34% had been "scared off, shot at, wounded, or captured by an armed victim"
• 40% had decided not to commit a crime because they "knew or believed that the victim was carrying a gun"
• 69% personally knew other criminals who had been "scared off, shot at, wounded, or captured by an armed victim"
 
Quote from Humpy:

At what point do you intend to use your guns ?

1. A neighbour insults you or your family
2. Someone breaks into your house at night
3. Catch someone shagging your wife
4.That guy down the street who wears a turban thingy is giving you strange looks
5. Just to scare the neighbours
6.other

What's your breaking point ? Or are you like nitro, and have mental problems ?

A statistic that you probably don't want to know is that in the USA a gun owner is 22 times more likely to shoot himself or 1 of his family than an intruder.

1) no
2) absolutely 100% without a shadow of a doubt...multiple times.
3) absolutely not. I would just part ways.
4) Not one turban wearing mo-fo anywhere near my house, but i'd porbably resort to my old ways anyways to take care of this problem.
5) I love my neighbors.
6) Yes, if i thought my families life or mine were in danger...absolutely, i'd deal with the consequences after.

I had a guy break into my car about 6 yrs ago in my front yard...3am, the guy breaking the steering column accidently honked my horn. Guess what, he almost got shot....he ran away after looking down the barrel of my 9 milli....I thought that through and came to the conclusion that I should have just gone back to sleep........thats why we have insurance....peace
 
Quote from Lucrum:

1)No, that would be both stupid and illegal
2)Probably
3)No, that would be both stupid and illegal
4)No, that would be both stupid and illegal
5)No, that would be both stupid and illegal
6)Yes, provided it's not both stupid and illegal
Well on my 1911 it's set at around 4 lbs. Not that I'm aware of

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Quote from Joe Doaks:

Not to brag, or anything, but for forty years I worked developing shit that Buck Rogers had wet dreams about. Short of slaging the entire continent, boots and guns on the ground still beat the fanciest technologies. The fucking Afghans are beating us with rusty Enfields.

You have made a grand point! Conventional armies, no matter how high tech can't defeat determined individuals with "rusty Enfields", unless the modern army is willing to indiscriminately incinerate everyone. A temporary "victory" via incineration will lead directly to further conflict elsewhere, as in the internet age, people notice these things, and their is always a Wikileaks character popping up to tell the inconvenient truth; thus war in the conventional sense is a completely outmoded enterprise for all but the most backward. Continuous involvement in one war after another, and maintenance of large conventional military forces is childish, a terrible and counterproductive waste of human and other valuable resources, and a disastrous drain on the country's Treasury. It's also unethical and morally wrong in the eyes of some, but curiously the religious, "moral majority" has no serious objection to endless killing in a bizarre, and apparently flexible, interpretation of the Christian Ten Commandments. They decry "situation ethics" in others but they are comfortable with their own "situation ethics". How bizarre is that?

I expect the U.S. to continue down this wildly popular path to ruin for many more years. Eventually, of course, after every adult is either a police informer or in prison, everything will end horribly and we will start over with something else. But that's a long ways off, and I expect to live rather well in the meantime, not because of the childish policies of my country, but in spite of them. There are still many good things to celebrate and be thankful for as a U.S. citizen.
 
Quote from piezoe:

You have made a grand point! Conventional armies, no matter how high tech can't defeat determined individuals with "rusty Enfields", unless the modern army is willing to indiscriminately incinerate everyone. A temporary "victory" via incineration will lead directly to further conflict elsewhere, as in the internet age, people notice these things, and their is always a Wikileaks character popping up to tell the inconvenient truth; thus war in the conventional sense is a completely outmoded enterprise for all but the most backward. Continuous involvement in one war after another, and maintenance of large conventional military forces is childish, a terrible and counterproductive waste of human and other valuable resources, and a disastrous drain on the country's Treasury. It's also unethical and morally wrong in the eyes of some, but curiously the religious, "moral majority" has no serious objection to endless killing in a bizarre, and apparently flexible, interpretation of the Christian Ten Commandments. They decry "situation ethics" in others but they are comfortable with their own "situation ethics". How bizarre is that?

I expect the U.S. to continue down this wildly popular path to ruin for many more years. Eventually, of course, after every adult is either a police informer or in prison, everything will end horribly and we will start over with something else. But that's a long ways off, and I expect to live rather well in the meantime, not because of the childish policies of my country, but in spite of them. There are still many good things to celebrate and be thankful for as a U.S. citizen.

Well, I am an unabashed militarist, and I believe that we must be prepared to fight a worldwide war against Islamic jihad. Fucking pussy Euros let everything go that was hard-won up to the 1492 expulsion of the Moors from Spain. In the interim, if it were up to me, we would seize Canada and Mexico and all the countries down to Panama and consolidate our hold on North American resources. Also I would slave our nukes to whatever the Israelis choose to target and mop up after them. Guns. Gold. Silver. Lead.
 
Quote from Joe Doaks:

Well, I am an unabashed militarist, and I believe that we must be prepared to fight a worldwide war against Islamic jihad. Fucking pussy Euros let everything go that was hard-won up to the 1492 expulsion of the Moors from Spain. In the interim, if it were up to me, we would seize Canada and Mexico and all the countries down to Panama and consolidate our hold on North American resources. Also I would slave our nukes to whatever the Israelis choose to target and mop up after them. Guns. Gold. Silver. Lead.
well hurry up. The sooner people like you kill each other off the sooner the rest of us can enjoy life without you.
 
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