City Forced To Lower Police Testing Standards Because Not Enough Blacks Passed

Quote from phenomena:

More ad hominem. I guess when the facts aren't on your side, all you have left are personal attacks... LOL!!! Thankfully I'm not in that predicament.

What I linked to was SAT scores which were controlled for economic status, then compared by race. SAT scores are generally taken to be indicative of cognitive ability. It was controlled for the conditions which you specified. How is that not relevant to the premise you put forth? It was you who was referencing education, school books, etc.

Sorry I didnt check out the link. I just read what you put in the post. So you may have me there. But everywhere else you're clearly wrong. Ad hominem attacks? Whatever, I call spades spades. You call it what you want.
 
WTF. Did you even read my post?

I never said I was offended by your question. What I said was that you should respond to the points which were made. You asked what I thought and why, and disagreed. Yet, you responded to none of the points which I made. Instead, you went on to try to indict another "racist" while ignoring all of my points, since I didn't say what you were hoping I would. Of course the answer you were salivating for was that I wanted to institute some sort of legal segregation. When it turned out that's not what I wanted or believed, you went on to the next "racist" hoping that he would suggest it. Instead of trying to find people to indict, why don't you respond to all the points you asked for? I think that's a fair request.

I never said that you asking me questions "troubles me". What troubles me is you twisting my words. I never said that a group is "genetically pre programmed to attack me". You just made that up. I never said it.

Of course, I agree with the assertion that all people and all groups are capable of racism. I never said otherwise. Why are you killing the strawman?

Quote from Trader7793:

Gotcha games??? phenomena you really need to review my post before responding. I simply asked for your opinion on how to deal with a problem that you outlined. Then I responded as to what I thought about the original subject of this thread, affirmative action and the Dayton Police Department. Then finally I asked a very direct question to someone else who expressed similar views to your own. My hope was that he would also provide his version of solutions to these problems. Would his solutions be things that I would agree with? Probably not, but that does not mean that they are not worth reading. Now I am wondering why asking you to express your own opinions disturbs you so much. I can somewhat understand why people calling you names such as "rascist" would bother you...but why is having someone who disagrees with you, question you further and get your arguments in your own words, trouble you so much? Since your data is so exact and your facts so undisputable, you should not even be worried by "gotcha games". You said you have facts and not beliefs, so is asking where those facts lead you really so bad?

Personally if I believed that a group was genetically pre-programed to attack me, I too would be worried. I would want them kept as far away from me as possible. Now I believe that people make decisions to attack others based on their values and beliefs and not their genetics, but that is just me.

When I was at college a visiting professor/speaker made a 2 hour presentation on how white people were genetically racist. He literally had 2 hours of examples of how whites have tried to conqueror, destroy or oppress other races. He had every statistic imaginable, but in the end his conclusions were an absolute joke. It was very clear to me, at least that all races are capable of racism and that it was not genetics, but individual choices.
 
You're just engaging in childish name calling, because you don't actually have a factual premise. Don't worry... I'm used to it. LOL!!!

Quote from ElecEquity:

Sorry I didnt check out the link. I just read what you put in the post. So you may have me there. But everywhere else you're clearly wrong. Ad hominem attacks? Whatever, I call spades spades. You call it what you want.
 
Quote from phenomena:

Check the records? LOL!! I asked you what was "racist". You responded with a quote from someone which suggested that Affirmative Action policies, which are anti white discrimination policies, may have had something to do with Obama academic and professional success. That was your example of "racism" when I asked for one. Check the records :D

No...that was NOT my response. You're totally wrong man. My response is here. It's the 4th post on the page. You're confused and it's going to be clear to anyone else reading right now.

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=216933&perpage=6&pagenumber=31

This ridiculous exchange began here when I responded to a comment from rc8222... --- its the 2nd post on the page
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=216933&perpage=6&pagenumber=30

Your inappropriate response to my comment is here: http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=216933&perpage=6&pagenumber=30 -- its the 4th post on the page...

I then explained to you the context of my content here and you still fail to understand...its here: http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=216933&perpage=6&pagenumber=31 --- its the 2nd one on the page

Finally, you replied and told me that I suffered an "Obfuscation fail" when you clearly suffered one from the outset. Go away son.
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=216933&perpage=6&pagenumber=31 -- its the 5th post

** below is an edit from my original post**
(1) As an aside, the quote from pspr about having more questions about street drugs, gangs and breaking&entering was probably a joke and meant in good humor, it's clearly racist.

(2) If you fail to understand from this post how much you have been confused from the start, there's no point in replying because you'll continue to prove my point that you really are an idiot.
 
Quote from phenomena:

Facts are not "racism", statistical findings are not "hate". So, please tell me- what here has been "racist"?

Quote from ElecEquity:

My comment was based on the person's comment about how/why Obama achieved entrance into Harvard Law and his academic performance while there. As far as I know, neither George Dubya's or Obama's academic records were released. If you have proof of otherwise feel free to post a link and I will concede defeat. Otherwise...there are no facts in reference to the comment that I replied to.

I am a betting man, and I would hasten to take the other side of your bet if you really think that George W. is more intelligent than Obama. I'm sure I wouldn't be alone betting against you there.

So, you've changed your mind?
 
Clearly I'm not the 1st person that has experienced being totally misunderstood by phenomena. Due to his inability to perform reading comprehension well, I'm no longer wasting my time with this guy. Thanks.
 
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Quote from ElecEquity:

I got my ass handed to me in an argument and made myself look like an idiot, so now to make myself feel better I'm declaring victory and running away with my tail between my legs.
 
Quote from Trader7793:

1prometheus I am curious to hear what your solutions are to these racial issues in the USA. In prior post phenomena outlined what he thinks should happen, but what is your opinion? Do you believe a new form of segregation would be helpful for the nation? Are you a supporter of sending blacks back to Africa? It would seem that since you think the problems are genetic, more extreme measures are needed to fix things?

Segregation already exists just about everywhere people are free to make their own choices. It exists along the axis of economic position/status, prestige, as well as race/ethnicity. I speak not simply of America but the entire world. That is how people choose to live.

"Diversity" on the other hand is often a symptom of ruled territories. For example China imports "diversity" into areas where it has a weak grip on power. The USSR did the same thing. You see, "diversity" and a fragmented society is a more secure territory from the perspective of the elite. It is called divide and conquer. That is why when a totalitarian government falls, quite frequently the people begin civil wars along ethnic lines. This is because the state had thrown people together in order to suit its own ends, which was domination. Most people naturally wish to be around, "Their own kind." Forced diversity is a first cousin to the totalitarian state.

But regardless, to your question. We need a multidimensional approach. This will be a rant as i do not have the energy to organize my thoughts:

-end mass immigration. Immigration must be used only to fill narrow, specific needs in areas of strategic significance (science, technology, etc). The future will NOT NEED more workers. A very high percent of "work" today is fake work manufactured to give people something to do. Technology already does most of the real work, and this will be even more true in the future. Low population density is critical to quality of life and environmental sanity.

-End ALL immigration from low quality population areas: Sub Saharan Africa, etc. A third world invasion is in the process of destroying many of America's most beautiful small cities and towns. It will get worse. To save america this insanity must be stopped.

-End the "refuge" scam

-End "birthright" citizenship and the anchor-baby scam.

-End all leftist social engineering scams and the political management of our communities. Specifically, end school busing which has destroyed much of the white urban/near urban middle classes public school system. We must return to community based schools. I used to live in one of the wealthiest near-downtown neighborhoods in Chicago. Yet go to the neighborhood school, and it is 100% ghetto kids. This is an insane injustice to taxpayers.

-End affirmative action. If we can't end it, a time will come for white Christians to demand a fare share of the spoils. Let no race and no ethnicity be above their population % we get X%, whatever we are of the population. I do not believe this is a good outcome or just, it is merely a strategy to gain the leverage needed to end minority anti-white discrimination.

-the anti-white school curriculum that teaches our founding fathers (etc) and our history is evil should be shit-canned. The leftist anti-white brainwashing that students suffer under their entire academic lives must be tossed in the dumpster.

-Education? Where to start? While liberals are "waiting for superman" to turn ghetto blacks into Asians nerds, some of us have moved on. We realized that "bad students make bad schools" and that, "poor aptitude makes bad students" (as the recent (good) book by a similar title suggests.) Lets let the underclass be done with the violent, non-productive day camp called "school" after somewhere around 8th grade MAX. High school and college are a waste of time. Pass a reading test, pass basic math, or reach a certain age, and you are done. From there either do some vocational training or get a job.

-Active management of population quality via humane and voluntary methods. (Folks, we currently have an abortion genocide occurring in this country every day. Keep that in mind as you consider this proposal.) We need to: 1. Vigorously Promote permanent birth control among those on welfare/in the projects by offering very generous incentives. 2. Offer violent felons early release in return for receiving permanent birth control. 3. Promote child rearing and family formation with generous tax credits and deductions for Private schools, stay at home moms, etc.

Lastly, we need to get real about maintaining our productive independence as a nation and our high standard of living for working (the non-entrepreneurial, non-property owning) masses or majority. If we want equalized global wages it will literally destroy America's middle and working class. If you are OK with this, fine. I think it is a very bad idea.

-Radically lower domestic individual and corporate taxes AND toss up a tariff. Poof, we will have broad job growth return to the USA and increasing wages again (rather than just increasing return for royalty, property, IP, and equity owners)

The reduced immigration will of course increase the price and value of labor. This will help the prospects of those near the bottom. All those kids who are not fit for "education" but moral, decent people can get a job and have a decent life. All those jobs, "Americans will not do" will be done by Americans again.

-Lets beautify our cities and not tolerate sloth. Lets put the "urban youths" to work cleaning and maintaining our cities. Give them nice uniforms and a decent paycheck and lets eliminate the filth, dirt, grunge and grime from our cities.

In conclusion we need to manage and maintain America for the benefit of its current citizens, while gradually working to improve the quality of our population (And of course immediately halt the current decline).
 
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Quote from phenomena:

Yes, your hateful disdain for America is illustrated in this video. It even covered your hatred for us blue eyed white devils. Seems to me you might be happier finding somewhere else to live, rather than spend your days in a wicked, hateful place like this... Then again, wherever that place is wouldn't have the cushy "affirmative action" policies which have allowed you and your parents to actually make a living... Not that this has anything to do with the video I posted...

You have no credibility after such statements and with everything else that you've done.

I'm just curious, since this IS a TRADING forum after all, are you a full-time trader?
 
LOL!! The guy who can't keep his thoughts organized from one post to the next, who makes erroneous claims about education statistics is now casting aspersions about credibility. :D Priceless.


Don't worry about what I am/do, it has nothing to do with the topic. Why are you asking irrelevant personal questions about me? This IS a politics/religion subforum after all.

Quote from ElecEquity:

You have no credibility after such statements and with everything else that you've done.

I'm just curious, since this IS a TRADING forum after all, are you a full-time trader?
 
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