City Forced To Lower Police Testing Standards Because Not Enough Blacks Passed

Quote from 1prometheus:

There is an underlying assumption in much of the civil rights rhetoric that I think would be insulting to any intelligent or ambitious black person. The notion is that Blacks are unable to open their own businesses, build their own communities, have their own, black owned diners, etc. Today we have the notion that blacks can't do much of anything in life without special favors and handouts from whites. Rather than go to a black owned diner, they need mighty whitey to reserve a spot between two honkey's for him. Is this really true? (more blah blah follows)

Pure and utter garbage. If there was not law and precedent forbidding it I would recommend you hang yourself.
 
Quote from Trader7793:

............ all diversity programs and affirmative action ended..........
Any fair person would want a level playing field for all. No special quotas, no racial favoritism just equal rights for all.
 
Quote from pspr:

Any fair person would want a level playing field for all. No special quotas, no racial favoritism just equal rights for all.

Think of it as a racetrack instead. Any fair person would want everyone starting at the same line.
 
Quote from Dave10110100:

Think of it as a racetrack instead. Any fair person would want everyone starting at the same line.
"All men are created equal" Those words tell us that all mean are created with equal rights under God. That doesn't mean some get better rights or others get lesser rights. It means we all get equal rights. Nothing more, nothing less. Your analogy doesn't apply.
 
"We'd love to not have our personal freedoms taken, bit by bit, justified by high rates of crime, committed disproportionately by other groups; yet the rules must apply to everyone equally hence we loose liberty too."

The above is an extremely important point in a post filled with them.

-"libertarianism" without hard-headed realism is essentially a non-sustainable suicide pact and completely vulnerable to all manor of threats (A perfect example being immigration by those hostile to liberty).
-Not all peoples are capable of self-governance (Haiti, etc). To think otherwise at this point is blind, foolish idealism. Living among those incapable of such and importing more will inherently destroys ones own liberty and eventually an entire civilization.



Quote from phenomena:

Exactly. The leftist "egalitarian" school acts like we want to throw on hoods and kill black people. The fact is, it would make most of us would be quite pleased to not have to protect our love ones from black crime. We'd love nothing more than to not have friends and loved ones be raped, robbed, murdered, by blacks. We'd love to not have to move out of the cities which we built over centuries, just for our safety and prosperity. We'd love to not have to pick up the tab for small minority groups which are continually impoverished, and committing all kinds of horrific violent crime at several multiples of the white and asian rates. We'd love to not have our cities which were forged over centuries turned into 3rd world dumps, so that we feel the need to vacate them. We'd love to not have our personal freedoms taken, bit by bit, justified by high rates of crime, committed disproportionately by other groups; yet the rules must apply to everyone equally hence we loose liberty too. We'd love to not be subjected to the suffering that being exposed to these parasitic elements entails. Of course the logical fallacy is that we "hate" people because of their "skin color", or simply because they are non whites. Yet, you hear dramatically less bitching about east asians, ever wonder why that could be?

Despite the fact that minority on white crime happens at 1200% the rate of white on minority crime, and that there is rampant systemic discrimination against whites in the favor of nonwhites, despite the fact that the single biggest indicator for crime in a given area is what % of the population is black or hispanic, despite all these hard, quantitative facts people will tell you that the only reason whites would want to reside away from certain minorities must only be because of "hate". God forbid you want to prevent your daughter from getting gang raped, or your son getting shot for his sneakers, or your mother from being robbed and beaten, and take the most mathematically valid approach to avoiding those outcomes. God forbid you are saddened by seeing the grand cities that your forefathers built slowly being turned into 3rd world dumps. This sentiment could only occur as a result of "hate" because of "skin color". Despite the fact that forcible integration measures have been taken and discrimination policies which favor non whites have been instituted, to the tune of 4% of GDP, largely out of the pockets of white tax payers, the conditions have continued to deteriorate.

Ever notice how we didn't ever seem to need any drug laws until the 50s? Ever notice how personal freedom and privacy seem to be infinitely more sacred in America before the 60s? Ever wonder why Canada, just right next door delivers far more personal freedom and is infinitely better at respecting personal privacy, has better education despite sharing a highly similar culture, and geography? Hmmm, I wonder why this could be....

If you want to take the most statistically valid measure to protect yourself from violent crimes and sexual assaults, if you are saddened by the cities your forefathers built gradually being turned into violent, unsafe 3rd world dumps, if you are upset by your schools being turned to shit, if you are dismayed by standards of competency and education being lowered, if you are resentful towards the shrinking civil liberties and respect for privacy, if you want the admission and aid to go to the best student, or the job to the most qualified , REGARDLESS of race, then you are a "racist", and hate people because of their "skin color". If that's not the biggest left wing spin job fail in history, I don't know what is.
 
Quote from Ricter:

Pure and utter garbage.
That's what I consider most of your posts to be, and for good reason.

Quote from Ricter:
In our society it is the have-nots who commit crime.

Ever hear of Bernie Madoff? How about congressmen or wall street bankers?


You should probably stick to polluting earth and contributing to global warming with your oil business. It's apparently the only thing you know anything about.
 
Quote from Ricter:

Pure and utter garbage. If there was not law and precedent forbidding it I would recommend you hang yourself.

Well Ricter, This is sad.

It appears blind hatred and rage has taken control of your critical reasoning facility.

In what to this point has been a civil conversation (on controversial topics, which is difficult to do) you wish a painful death upon me. Two children would be left without a dad. That makes you a monster Ricter. Is that what you really are?

Are you unable to provide a counterpoint? ...To create a reasoned response? To summon facts in defense of your assertions?

This is a discussion forum. If you want to offer a viewpoint, why not present some facts? Why not write a thoughtful essay? Why not take apart my expressed viewpoint with a counterpoint?

If this is beyond you (such that you resort to calls for violence) it is not my fault. Your call for violence makes you the ultimate loser Ricter. You certainly have lost the respect of many here who have followed this thread.

I hope you are able to redeem yourself Ricter. I hope you are not evil but rather just vented out of frustration. For your sake.
 
Quote from Ricter:

Pure and utter garbage. If there was not law and precedent forbidding it I would recommend you hang yourself.

One more point Ricter, as it is possible you did not decipher the nuance:

I was not stating my OWN VIEWPOINT, but rather stating what I think is an UNDERLYING PREMISE to LIBERAL IDEOLOGY.

-Folks, lets not let let Ricter lead this conversation into the gutter with calls for violence and hate.

That kind of ugliness contributes nothing to our understanding of the issues and is a perfect example of the attitude that is harming our country:
 
Thankfully, I have avoided being violently victimized by blacks- although it's not because they haven't tried, but because I won the conflict. Thankfully I was in very good shape in those days.

So no, I have never been violently victimized by black people, although some black people have burglarized my home and car. One time I was attacked by blacks, I was at an all black (except for me and two mexicans) nightclub. If it weren't for the fact that I was there with a sizable group of my black friends and acquaintances, and knew the deejay and 2 of the bouncers, I could well be dead. There was more than one shooting, and stabbings at that club. It was because I was getting cozy with a black girl, probably the best looking girl hands down there. We were flirting, dancing, all over each other, etc, As you might expect, this pissed many of the black guys there off, to the point of physical assault, threats of murder after they lost the conflict, etc. They weren't gonna have some crackah getting it on with one of 'their women', and certainly not the most attractive one...

Notice how often you will see the occasional black guy or two at virtually all white clubs hitting on white girls, many times successfully, and the white guys don't say a word, they don't care. If any of them did say anything, most of their friends would tell them they were being racist, etc. In the white crowd, it's rare anyone has anything to say about it. Yet, when the honkey boy gets popular with the black chicks... no sir... that is worth attacking someone, and even getting injured over... threatening death even... Yet blacks often go to mostly white bars, trying to pick up white women, and often accuse them of being "racist" when the white women are disinterested in them. I used to be in the nightclub business, and have seen this over and over again. I am from a city which is just over 50% black. It's almost unheard of to hear of a shooting or stabbing in a bar/club which is almost all white. They are fairly common at many of the black venues. Not hate, just facts.

Anyhow, besides the burglary and vandalism, that's the closest I have personally come to being victimized by blacks. However, I do have many friends, acquaintances, and some family members who have been victimized by blacks and/or latinos; including murder and rape victims. None of them have ever been victimized in such a way by a white person. I'm hardly unique in this regard. You'll find that people's experience is very consistent with the crime data stats. Despite the justice dept's attempts to ignore these facts, and repackage the data on racial crime stats to more closely fit the PC paradigm, actual people know the reality. The reality is that, for "whatever reason", the likelihood that you or your loved ones will be victimized by a nonwhite is several multiples the likelihood that you will be victimized by a caucasian. Whatever your favorite theory is as to WHY that is the case is irrelevant, but the accuracy of the claim is irrefutable.

The source of my frustration? Well, let's see, having other groups of people rape, murder, rob, and attack members of my ethnic group at over 1200% the rate at which my group commits such actions upon them, then be told that it's somehow my group's collective fault, or that I'm "racist" for even noticing it is pretty damned offensive. Then having the government discriminate against my ethnic group for job selection, education, funding, and public aid, in favor of the group who is committing these violent crimes against my ethnic group is pretty offensive, especially when they are simultaneously telling me how bad racial discrimination is, and at the same time that race doesn't exist...

Also, the set of legislation and enhanced punishments which 90% of the time are used against people of MY ethnic group, when the other groups are committing interracial crime at 1200%+ the rate my group is... that's kind of offensive too. "Affirmative Action" generally means "harsher punishment for white people who victimize nonwhites". Even though whites commit a minute fraction of the interracial crime...

I also get frustrated with the fact that every other group of people is encouraged to "celebrate their culture", or to be proud of their ethnicity. Ethnocentric sentiments are encouraged for everyone, except white people of course. Any notion of ethnocentricism in white people is immediately called "hate" or "racism". Other groups can have "wise latinas" or "strong black men", "black history month", or "latino achievement weeks", but for some reason any notion of white people having any such ethnic pride is "hate" or "bigotry", despite the fact that white people, my people, are the people who built this civilization. So yeah, that's kind of offensive too. The way white children are taught a PC approved, and factually inaccurate rendition of history, and that white children are taught that their civilization and ancestors have been uniquely oppressive and barbaric, when in fact they built the greatest civilization in history, and have been one of the most humane civilizations in recorded history... That's kind of offensive too...

Quote from Trader7793:

Wow phenomena!!! Your last post provided a lot of insight as to why you write the things that you do. Were you a victim of a crime committed by blacks? I am asking that sincerely. Sometimes people have frustrations and pinted up anger because of things that have happened in their lives, that others may not be aware of when they debate or challenge them.

I know that if I thought that almost all black people were crazed lunactics with a genetic pre-disposition to murder, rape and steal from every white person who crossed their field of view and lacked even enough basic common sense to know that what they were doing was wrong...I would also respond with the same intensity and conviction that you do.

Have you ever considered seeking counseling, or perhaps pursuing a career in law-enforcement? (Just joking...about both)

I must admit that I am curious as to what you see as solutions to the problems with blacks in the USA. I already know that you want all diversity programs and affirmative action ended...but what else do you want done? Should a new more modern version of racial segregation be instituted...in order to protect whites from being raped and killed by mindless rampaging blacks? Do you see a way of deporting the black population back to Africa? You have done a very good job of defining the problem (as you see it) what now are the solutions?
 
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