Christians On Trial For Their Faith
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The soundtrack clip is nice, but I didn't hear God in it.
This guy heard God though, only he was real, not a cartoon character:
The soundtrack clip is nice, but I didn't hear God in it.
Then you are not listening.
If you do not hear God in this song I just posted now, then you do not know what the idea of God is. You are lost.
How do you know who wrote the bible? Oh, God wrote it through man? But man is sinful and prone to many imperfections. You might even be reading something the devil wrote because the devil is a slippery slimey bugger and walks this earth.
Ya, that pesky devil is back listening to our conversation, bet ya he's plotting something to trip you up. (not me, waste if time as I'm already tripped up and sliding into hell as we speak).but not as they are now, due to ....guess who, the devil!
I already pretty much exhausted listing the reasons I know God moved upon men by His Spirit so that they would accurately write the words that God wanted recorded in the Bible. Here's the link:
https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/evidences-that-support-the-reliability-of-the-bible.348805/
(not me, waste if time as I'm already tripped up and sliding into hell as we speak).
When you place your trades do you recognise God's presence guiding your decisions?.....If He is going to reveal Himself to me, He does it when I read what He wrote. (The Bible.) But it's still HIM that's revealing Himself. There are many times I read the Bible and it's just regular reading. Then there are times when He brings just the right words across my path for what I needed to hear at the moment. Things like that. So how do I know it's Him? I know. But it's hard to explain. It's not like a weird sensation, more like conviction that it's true and He exists and maybe it's best to explain it as His person becomes more of a reality in the moment. But I don't feel a presence or anything. More like an awareness of some part of His character, His holiness, or His eternalness, or His kindness, or His wholesome wisdom for designing things as they should be, but not as they are now, due to ....guess who
No.
Except to answer truthfully, I have to say there was one time when I was trading live and broke all my rules (and overtraded too) and then when I realized how much money I was losing money, that I started really praying about it, just kept asking that God would help me get back to break even for the day.
The market turned around and I made the right decisions enough to get back to break even. What was kind of funny about it was that I thought I wasn't sure I had stopped at break even because I don't monitor my actual account when I trade, but I go by a preset rounded off figure for fees and commissions my platform keeps track of.
So, after I finally stopped trading, knowing I'd better not take any more trades, I was kind of like, well, was this just chance, or did God help me? So, when I check my actual AMP balance after fees were applied, I was ahead by 2 cents.
So, I thought that was kind of interesting. Had I been 3 cents less (or more), I wouldn't have been back to break even. So, if it was God, He was very exact, and even gave me an extra 2 cents!!
The rest of the story is that about a week later I had still not learned to trade with discipline and traded even worse than that day. I thought about praying both those losing days, but I just wanted to do my own thing, and didn't pray when trading or before trading. I guess what really was happening is that I started off making sane decisions, but when the first trade didn't go my way, then, on both days, I tried what has never worked in the past for me, but something I'd been thinking should work, which is adding a contract to a losing trade. I know not to do that. And what so bad about that is that if I had just been willing to take profits and quit trading, those two days could have ended differently, because the trades did go into profit a couple times. But I misread everything and thought price would go up on down days.....
Long, rambling story short....so towards the end of both of those days I thought maybe I should try praying again, so I made myself, but my heart wasn't in it, because I knew I was overtrading and not following any plan at all and I shouldn't be trading. And even though towards the very end (don't remember if I prayed the first of the 2 days of losing badly) I did pray, nothing happened to bless my foolishness. And that's how I lost my account in July of this year. And I've only traded live one day since, because I am still not trading with self control in demo. I'm not sure I'll get better at having self control. That is why my live trading account has only enough to trade with. I don't trust myself.
Anyhow, I like my comeback trades from that 2 cent break even day. I am even posting a chart. Not sure if I started praying before the 3 losing trades or after, but either way, I had a nice winning streak. I'm not going to show the trades before the winning streak, they were definitely not trading according to my plan. Oh, and one more thing, I had actually lost the money on the both the MES and MNQ premarket, and then made it back on the ES after that. So that should help make sense of my trades list.
It's not much of a proof of an answered prayer, but I'm including my broker's trade list so that at least you can verify that I'm telling the truth.
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I appreciate your honesty and frankness regarding how you described your trading, imo it's one of the key ingredients for a trader when their mind is honest with themselves. One learns better imo when they can deal honestly with decisions.No.
Except to answer truthfully, I have to say there was one time when I was trading live and broke all my rules (and overtraded too) and then when I realized how much money I was losing money, that I started really praying about it, just kept asking that God would help me get back to break even for the day.
The market turned around and I made the right decisions enough to get back to break even. What was kind of funny about it was that I thought I wasn't sure I had stopped at break even because I don't monitor my actual account when I trade, but I go by a preset rounded off figure for fees and commissions my platform keeps track of.
So, after I finally stopped trading, knowing I'd better not take any more trades, I was kind of like, well, was this just chance, or did God help me? So, when I check my actual AMP balance after fees were applied, I was ahead by 2 cents.
So, I thought that was kind of interesting. Had I been 3 cents less (or more), I wouldn't have been back to break even. So, if it was God, He was very exact, and even gave me an extra 2 cents!!
The rest of the story is that about a week later I had still not learned to trade with discipline and traded even worse than that day. I thought about praying both those losing days, but I just wanted to do my own thing, and didn't pray when trading or before trading. I guess what really was happening is that I started off making sane decisions, but when the first trade didn't go my way, then, on both days, I tried what has never worked in the past for me, but something I'd been thinking should work, which is adding a contract to a losing trade. I know not to do that. And what so bad about that is that if I had just been willing to take profits and quit trading, those two days could have ended differently, because the trades did go into profit a couple times. But I misread everything and thought price would go up on down days.....
Long, rambling story short....so towards the end of both of those days I thought maybe I should try praying again, so I made myself, but my heart wasn't in it, because I knew I was overtrading and not following any plan at all and I shouldn't be trading. And even though towards the very end (don't remember if I prayed the first of the 2 days of losing badly) I did pray, nothing happened to bless my foolishness. And that's how I lost my account in July of this year. And I've only traded live one day since, because I am still not trading with self control in demo. I'm not sure I'll get better at having self control. That is why my live trading account has only enough to trade with. I don't trust myself.
Anyhow, I like my comeback trades from that 2 cent break even day. I am even posting a chart. Not sure if I started praying before the 3 losing trades or after, but either way, I had a nice winning streak. I'm not going to show the trades before the winning streak, they were definitely not trading according to my plan. Oh, and one more thing, I had actually lost the money on the both the MES and MNQ premarket, and then made it back on the ES after that. So that should help make sense of my trades list.
It's not much of a proof of an answered prayer, but I'm including my broker's trade list so that at least you can verify that I'm telling the truth.
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We can be honest with ourselves yet be fooled by ourselves, we can allow our minds to play tricks.
We can imagine, hope, guess, have faith or be convinced of circumstances which is not reality.
It's a human failing to all if us and not specific to you.
We only need to look at the last recent years of politics and covid to see the huge conspiracy theories where humans believe polar opposite beliefs on major issues.
We only need to look at world wide religion to see what diverse beliefs there are including those close to home, eg not foreign countries.
The problem with Christianity or maybe any religion is 'faith', with faith anything is possible, what I mean, you can believe any whacky theory. Faith is the license to pretend.
Once you go down that track you are more or less 100% deceived.
With faith operating, one can wander down any track in their brain, anything is possible.
And the biggest danger is the belief, "It won't and can't happen to me, it may affect others, but it won't affect me".
I actually agree with all of that, except I can't say "The problem with Christianity." I would rather say that within all forms of Christianity, even with those that are trying to hold closely to the Bible as their source of truth, there is a real danger of misunderstanding scripture or adding to it and believing any whacky theory.
But the Bible has an answer for that, of course.
1. Test all things.
2. God's Word is truth.
3. God's Word must be carefully interpreted.
4. There will be many false Christians teaching things that are not of God.
Test all things; hold fast what is good.
1 Thessalonians 5:21
Your word is truth.
John 17:17b
Be a good worker, one who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly explains the word of truth.
2 Timothy 2:15b
Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
1 John 4:1
1 Thessalonians 5:21
Your word is truth.
John 17:17b
Be a good worker, one who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly explains the word of truth.
2 Timothy 2:15b
Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
1 John 4:1