Christianity......

[OPTIONAL777]

Emoticons, calling someone a pussy...

Do you ever step back and see what you have devolved into?

Quote from stu:

LOL ..look at the state of you ......you pussy

Hiding behind the skirts of a new age internet hippy 'cause you daren't come out and fight any longer.

ya big girl's blouse.

awww you can't see ...pressed the ignore like the sissy you are.. well in that case .....na na na na na Richard Richfarts

 

[I am...]

Quote from stu:

You're saying people from what they see, make up the wrong attributes for God or Go(o)d , or whatever silly word you want to make, just so you can say they are wrong.

In reality, that's hardly a compelling line of reasoning.

I'm contradicting those theologians who say that Go(o)d can be known from the things that men see (ie. "nature"). I'm saying that what man calls "natural" is unnatural to Go(o)d, mocks/mimics real/true creation, and constitutes blasphemy, if blasphemy against Go(o)d were possible. Men see earthquakes for example, and conclude that Go(o)d is this way or that (ie. vengeful, mean, tough, uncaring). And what I'm saying most vociferously, is that what man sees is what is coming out of his own heart. I'm saying that the world isn't what you think it is (ie. "reality"). It's a cosmic sized field of perception that enables the illusion of many minds to see what they want to see. No one could see/feel/experience this world if s/he truly did not want/wish to. Everyone is hiding a secret investment in it's "reality". And that's because the world is populated by hearts that have turned away from what is Go(o)d and Real to what is good(and)evil.

Christ!

 

[I am...]

Quote from stu:

Like I said, take the cliff test. Reality of it will take effect, as it will for everyone else. It's dramatic and excessive, but it is one of a few extremely effective cures for that psychosis.

First, let me congratulate you for zeroing in on the number one argument in favor of "Go(o)d is dead". The vulnerability of the body is an ego's own best argument that you can't be of Go(o)d....that you can't be the Son of Go(o)d.

Ironically, the vulnerability of the body is how an ego feels safe from the Truth, which is invulnerable. An ego is anything but the Truth, and denies it vehemently. It substitutes it's own "truth" instead. And now, something vulnerable becomes "the truth". You see, it's primarily about identification. Vulnerability validates an egos apparent existence. It would rather die than admit,

A.) it does not exist
B.) you are the Son of Go(o)d (the Truth).

Consequently, all forms of sickness are attempts to deny the Truth of Being about YOU. Death is just another form of sickness. Both are the effects of psychosis....what happens when a mind wanders away from Reality into its own little "reality".

In Reality, there is no death nor sickness...nothing that is vulnerable in any way. Reality is our true Identity beyond the appearances of mass material psychosis (illusions, perceptions).

Once again, its always about Identity...who you are. If you can jump off a cliff and die, you must not be the Son of Go(o)d. And that's the whole reason there seems to be a cliff to jump off of in the first place. Cliffs - the whole world of time/mass/material - is made out of a prehistoric denial of Self. It represents self-sabatoge. Or, said even more eloquently, it represents the crucifixion of the Truth.

Cliffs and crosses prove there is another "reality" besides Reality its Self. They are for proving...the impossible. You'll hit bottom and find out you couldn't be killed. And the personality called "stu" will just go on its merry - changing - way, oblivious to the Truth, dreaming it's way through an alternate reality in which life is exchanged for death, and death for life, and round and round...until the Truth sets you free. Itill turn out you couldn't kill yourself. All you can do is cause yourself gratuitous pain and suffering. Now if that's not a form of psychosis....

Christ!

 

[stu]

Quote from OPTIONAL777:

Do you ever step back and see what you have devolved into?

Well ?

Do you?

 

[stu]

Quote from I am...:

I'm contradicting those theologians who say that Go(o)d can be known from the things that men see (ie. "nature"). I'm saying that what man calls "natural" is unnatural to Go(o)d, mocks/mimics real/true creation, and constitutes blasphemy, if blasphemy against Go(o)d were possible. Men see earthquakes for example, and conclude that Go(o)d is this way or that (ie. vengeful, mean, tough, uncaring). And what I'm saying most vociferously, is that what man sees is what is coming out of his own heart. I'm saying that the world isn't what you think it is (ie. "reality"). It's a cosmic sized field of perception that enables the illusion of many minds to see what they want to see. No one could see/feel/experience this world if s/he truly did not want/wish to. Everyone is hiding a secret investment in it's "reality". And that's because the world is populated by hearts that have turned away from what is Go(o)d and Real to what is good(and)evil.

Christ!

I know what you are saying . I'm saying you are being dishonest in saying it.
You are relying on the very reality which you must, because it is real , to say it is not reality.

As I say Iam, leaving aside the matter of psychosis , to persist in what you are saying ,is simply dishonest and rather pathetic …..

So I merely draw your attention to reality, the like of which in all honesty everyone is obliged to recognize , the cliff edge or an oncoming truck, and what do you do?

Quote from Iam:

First, let me congratulate you for zeroing in on the number one argument in favor of "Go(o)d is dead"........... (etc etc...ad infinitum....)

Straight to the 'kitchen of confusion' to whip up another great pudding load of excessive twisted meaningless wordy ornamentation.
Seriously dude, come on. What the hell is that?

Ok you are a hippy, but the thing is, whilst there is nothing wrong in gibberish for it's own sake, you can't honestly expect that nonsense to be a replacement for reality unless you are ill.
Nor does talking in muddled word riddles represent the actuality of how things are for everybody, just because you want to deny reality so you can carry on with a pretence and a deceit.

You cannot in all reality demonstrate how the universe is not already all those things you want to call by a different name.

Instead of trying to verbalize yourself yet again into a whole mess of contradictory double speak, why not try and honestly address reality as it actually exists in that statement.?

In reality you are staring your "G(o)oD" or whatever it is, right in the face and calling it silly names.

 

[OPTIONAL777]

Yes, I do step back and watch you devolve, which is why I asked if you step back and see how far you have devolved over the years...

Quote from stu:

Well ?

Do you?

 

[I am...]

Quote from stu:

You are relying on the very reality which you must, because it is real , to say it is not reality.

Messages from Reality come in terms the believers in unreality can understand, such as words. How they come does not validate your unreality as much as you'd like to think.

As I say Iam, leaving aside the matter of psychosis , to persist in what you are saying ,is simply dishonest and rather pathetic …..

Then the diagnosis is mutual.

So I merely draw your attention to reality, the like of which in all honesty everyone is obliged to recognize , the cliff edge or an oncoming truck, and what do you do?

Yes, I understand what you are saying...that "reality" is about cliff edges, oncoming trucks ...ad infinitum. You want to draw my attention to that. Do you want me to fixate on it the way you are fixed to it?

I'm simply pointing out a correlation between your judgments (ie. this is reality!) your fixation with them, and your experience of "reality". You believe steadfastly there is no correlation. It's like someone denying any correlation between hallucinations and the shrooms he took so long ago that he can't remember taking them.

Straight to the 'kitchen of confusion' to whip up another great pudding load of excessive twisted meaningless wordy ornamentation.
Seriously dude, come on. What the hell is that?

Talking about hell. Talking about an overdose of judgmentalism. When mixed with a powerful mind, not good. So let me make this very clear. You are way underestimating the power of your mind. I'm calling the drug you took "ego". And now you are faced with cliffs, oncoming trucks, sickness, death...and every other form of self-crucifixion. These are not punishments. You are simply obeying the dictates of "ego", a pseudo-mind that rules unreality. Ego makes, for it's purposes, all of time/mass/bodies. I'm saying that ego is the godfather of all flesh. Flesh is vulnerable for a reason. Its for proving that unreality is Reality. Its for using pain to prove that Go(o)d is dead. It's for proving that death is more true than Life. All of this is intentional, and denied. You are maintaining an ancient (repressed) alliance with "ego"...the maker of all worlds unreal. The vulnerability of the body is its best argument against the Truth....and you are falling for it.


Christ!

 

[stu]

Quote from OPTIONAL777:

Yes, I do step back and watch you devolve, which is why I asked if you step back and see how far you have devolved over the years...

Yes I do step back and notice how you have devolved from posting silly gifs, to pictures of defecating elephants and fouled toilets over the years.
yeew... you've stepped back right into something... it's on your shoes.

 

[stu]

Quote from I am...:

Yes, I understand what you are saying...that "reality" is about cliff edges, oncoming trucks ...ad infinitum. You want to draw my attention to that. Do you want me to fixate on it the way you are fixed to it?

No I don't want you to fixate, you're doing enough of that for both of us. Just be be more honest and stop pretending the associated reality of those things is something other than how it actually presents itself .

Quote from I am...:

I'm simply pointing out a correlation between your judgments (ie. this is reality!) your fixation with them, and your experience of "reality". You believe steadfastly there is no correlation. It's like someone denying any correlation between hallucinations and the shrooms he took so long ago that he can't remember taking them.

Well now, that is very strange isn't it? In reality, you are simply pointing something out. In reality you can distinguish a correlation.

How awkward it must be in reality, for you to always need reality to make your point about how unreal peoples' reality is, while all the time you know of another real reality.

All I am pointing out, is that a micron under the surface of all that hotchpotch new age Iam Christ pseudo philosophy, is the reality of a cheap and dishonest, self-defeating contradiction.

 

[I am...]

Quote from stu:

No I don't want you to fixate, you're doing enough of that for both of us. Just be be more honest and stop pretending the associated reality of those things is something other than how it actually presents itself .

Perhaps you'd care to explain how cliffs and oncoming trucks present themselves. Hopefully, your explaination will not sound like a pseudo-quantum, semi-Newtonian, cheap, dishonest, self-defeating contradiction.

Christ!