Christian financial advisor Dave Ramsey sued for $150 million over timeshare-exit company

[TheDawn]

Really? Everyone? Ok, show us how Timothy Keller was corrupt and evil aside being human like everyone else. You seem to love to pick some corrupted individuals, wolfs in sheep clothing, to generalize about an entire religion. And perhaps explain how it is that Christians by far donate the most to worthy causes, above and beyond any other religion or atheists. Your generalizations can be disproven in a single post.

1. Can you show some statistics that prove that Christians by far donate the most to worthy causes, above and beyond any other religion or atheists or is this you talking out of your a$$ as usual?

2. Donating to worthy causes is not proof that Christians are better than anyone else nor is it proof that believing in Christianity is what made them to be supposedly generous donors. Plenty of people from other religions or atheists do more concrete things that actually made meaningful impacts on the world and humanity is far more worthwhile than just giving a bunch of money.

This devil's advocate argument receives a mark of F-. Try again.

 

[TheDawn]

I said selfishness. Please read more carefully. I stated that selfishness in young kids is not learned, it's inborn.

Next, who claimed that reading a book or believing in God gets rid of sin or "evil"? You made up a story that nobody brought up in the first place. If you understood anything about Christianity then you would know that the claim is that we can't be our own savior nor rid ourselves off sin, hence the need for a savior. Whether one believes that or not is a different story, but this in essence is what scripture in its entirety points toward.

But I am talking about sin which is what Christianity is all about. Who the f*** cares about selfishness? Why are you bringing in shit that's completely irrelevant to what people are talking about?

 

[M.W.]

Ha thanks for asking, this is very easy, take a look...

1. Can you show some statistics that prove that Christians by far donate the most to worthy causes, above and beyond any other religion or atheists or is this you talking out of your a$$ as usual?

2. Donating to worthy causes is not proof that Christians are better than anyone else nor is it proof that believing in Christianity is what made them to be supposedly generous donors. Plenty of people from other religions or atheists do more concrete things that actually made meaningful impacts on the world and humanity is far more worthwhile than just giving a bunch of money.

This devil's advocate argument receives a mark of F-. Try again.

 

[M.W.]

Selfishness is sinful behavior as defined in the Bible. You can believe anything you like but the above statement is a fact. Need me to point you again into the right direction?

But I am talking about sin which is what Christianity is all about. Who the f*** cares about selfishness? Why are you bringing in shit that's completely irrelevant to what people are talking about?

 

[M.W.]

Wow, it got quiet pretty quick. Too much evidence? Perhaps I should have spread out the evidence, my apologies

 

[TheDawn]

Selfishness is sinful behavior as defined in the Bible. You can believe anything you like but the above statement is a fact. Need me to point you again into the right direction?

I said selfishness. Please read more carefully. I stated that selfishness in young kids is not learned, it's inborn.

Now you are talking about sin?? Which one is it?? Is it selfishness or sin?? LOL You need to learn to pick a subject of your argument and stick with it. I was talking about sin and you were talking about selfishness and I told you that's not what I was talking about and your argument is irrelevant and now you are trying to equate selfishness with sin by saying it's a sinful behaviour??!! LOL You have no idea how lame you are.

Original Sin which is what I am talking about and what Christianity is all about != Selfishness. Two different concepts. Case closed. You lost.

 

[TheDawn]

Ha thanks for asking, this is very easy, take a look...

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How do we know they are unbiased studies considering the source is Partners of Sacred Places which has a vested interest in the flourishment of the Christian religion?

Second if you read carefully, my argument is not doubting the merit of the religion especially not Christianity. My point is now religions like Christianity are being used and abused to achieve ulterior motives and not about really spreading the positive message of Christianity.

 

[M.W.]

The stats are from many different sources. Draw your own conclusions and believe whatever pleases you.

This discussion is way over your head. You don't even understand the most basic tenets of Christianity and the Bible.

How do we know they are unbiased studies considering the source is Partners of Sacred Places which has a vested interest in the flourishment of the Christian religion?

Second if you read carefully, my argument is not doubting the merit of the religion especially not Christianity. My point is now religions like Christianity are being used and abused to achieve ulterior motives and not about really spreading the positive message of Christianity.

 

[TheDawn]

The stats are from many different sources. Draw your own conclusions and believe whatever pleases you.

This discussion is way over your head. You don't even understand the most basic tenets of Christianity and the Bible.

The source is stated very clearly as "Partners of Sacred Places". There are no other sources. That's ok. I accept your admittance of defeat. Nice debating with you.

 

[earth_imperator]

@M.W., as said they are members of an/the organized crime sect. They are very well organized & networked and can ruin your life by calling you this and that and reporting and badmouthing you to your employer etc.
They are such lowlife POS scum living on Earth...