Chris Wallace smacks Jon Stewart right back

Quote from MarketMasher:



Fine. But don't sell yourself as "Fair and Balanced". Or "We report, you decide."

Notice that nobody else makes that claim. Why not?

What everyone should do is TURN OFF YOUR F'N TV - TURN ON YOUR F'N BRAIN AND THINK FOR YOURSELF.

They say "fair and balanced" because they provide both sides of the issue! Jesus people what is so hard to understand about that? One last time here. Yes, Fox has a conservative point of view on their "prime time" programming lineup. But when they present an issue, they have guests on from "both" sides. Thereby letting you hear both sides of an issue and "deciding" for yourself where you stand. Hence the term "fair and balanced". Good lord people, enough already.
 
Quote from Maverick74:

They say "fair and balanced" because they provide both sides of the issue! Jesus people what is so hard to understand about that? One last time here. Yes, Fox has a conservative point of view on their "prime time" programming lineup. But when they present an issue, they have guests on from "both" sides. Thereby letting you hear both sides of an issue and "deciding" for yourself where you stand. Hence the term "fair and balanced". Good lord people, enough already.

FOX news is the gold standard in impartial journalism? Seriously, put down the kool-aid.

Ever heard of a strawman? That's what Alan Colmes is. A big liberal pussy that folds like a cheap suit to maintain the illusion FOX is "balanced" and consistently 'right on the issues'. Not saying FOX doesn't have some good reporting, or a truly balanced panel. Sure they do. Sometimes. That you can't admit FOX is a hardcore media arm for the Republican party is laughable. Remember back during GW? FOX was the biggest war-mongering network on the planet. The war, terror threat and Police State was pushed 24/7, in lock-step with the administration. After the neo-cons were thrown out, the GOP reinvented itself and co-opted the Libertarian-leaning tea-party, and look at FOX, all of a sudden they did a complete 180, and now, are decidedly pro-libertarian, pro-Tea Party, anti-big Government. It's a joke. They really changed their ways, huh?

You said that political bias in media is only coincidental and not editorial. Were you born yesterday? Who do you think owns these new outlets? Perfect little angels sworn to unbiased reporting? Every person has a political bias. Journalists, sure. AND the people (or Corporations) they work for. Seriously. Go read about Ted Turner. That guy is one of the biggest enviro-cranks on the planet. I'm sure it's just a 'coincidence' CNN fear-mongers global warming and overpopulation every chance they get. And the Government never lies, always tells the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. That brash naivete you seem to love is one the reasons why America is at the brink of fiscal disaster. You Boomers seem to enjoy being fooled by con-men in ten thousand dollar suits...
 
Quote from achilles28:

FOX news is the gold standard in impartial journalism? Seriously, put down the kool-aid.

Ever heard of a strawman? That's what Alan Colmes is. A big liberal pussy that folds like a cheap suit to maintain the illusion FOX is "balanced" and consistently 'right on the issues'. Not saying FOX doesn't have some good reporting, or a truly balanced panel. Sure they do. Sometimes. That you can't admit FOX is a hardcore media arm for the Republican party is laughable. Remember back during GW? FOX was the biggest war-mongering network on the planet. The war, terror threat and Police State was pushed 24/7, in lock-step with the administration. After the neo-cons were thrown out, the GOP reinvented itself and co-opted the Libertarian-leaning tea-party, and look at FOX, all of a sudden they did a complete 180, and now, are decidedly pro-libertarian, pro-Tea Party, anti-big Government. It's a joke. They really changed their ways, huh?

You said that political bias in media is only coincidental and not editorial. Were you born yesterday? Who do you think owns these new outlets? Perfect little angels sworn to unbiased reporting? Every person has a political bias. Journalists, sure. AND the people (or Corporations) they work for. Seriously. Go read about Ted Turner. That guy is one of the biggest enviro-cranks on the planet. I'm sure it's just a 'coincidence' CNN fear-mongers global warming and overpopulation every chance they get. And the Government never lies, always tells the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. That brash naivete you seem to love is one the reasons why America is at the brink of fiscal disaster. You Boomers seem to enjoy being fooled by con-men in ten thousand dollar suits...

You will think much better with the tin foil hat off your head. Not everything is a conspiracy. But if it makes you feel better, believe whatever you want.
 
Quote from Maverick74:

You will think much better with the tin foil hat off your head. Not everything is a conspiracy. But if it makes you feel better, believe whatever you want.

A weak and stupid reply. Grow up.
 
Fair and balanced:

ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos warned Michele Bachmann that the media plans on investigating all 23 of her foster children, just like they did with Obama or any other democratic politico. Wait, what?

Stephanopoulos: Finally one—one final question. I think one of the most impressive things that people find in your background is the fact that you and your husband have helped raise 23 foster children and I know you want to shield them but are they prepared and are you prepared for the loss of privacy that comes with the president campaign? And is that something you are concerned about for them?

Bachmann: Well when we were making this momentous decision we sat down for a long time as a family and contemplated what this was meaning and yes, we are ready. We have five wonderful biological children. Our last one is off to college our oldest one is a doctor. And then we had great – a great 23 foster children in our home as well. And as you can imagine and appreciate we’ve tried to keep a good handle on their privacy and we will do that, we will respect their privacy. We are thankful that we had them but we also want to observe their privacy and that of their families.
 
Quote from Maverick74:

They say "fair and balanced" because they provide both sides of the issue! Jesus people what is so hard to understand about that? One last time here. Yes, Fox has a conservative point of view on their "prime time" programming lineup. But when they present an issue, they have guests on from "both" sides. Thereby letting you hear both sides of an issue and "deciding" for yourself where you stand. Hence the term "fair and balanced". Good lord people, enough already.

I have said that I stopped watching Fox after they faked Ron Paul being booed at CPAC. It is on Youtube using their Search if you missed it.

No. That is not Fair and Balanced. That is not presenting "both" sides.

That is a blatant agenda-driven approach - and pointing to other shows means nothing. Nothing.

Other shows have their problems.

Fox's problems are its own.
 
Quote from Lornz:

Polls are probably the least factual representation of any subject...

I care not for neither the "left" nor "right", and I have a healthy dose of discontempt for the mainstream media.

I'll let greater minds than me do the talking:

Advertisements contain the only truths to be relied on in a newspaper.

I do not take a single newspaper, nor read one a month, and I feel myself infinitely the happier for it.

The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers.
Thomas Jefferson
(http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/2008/03/jefferson_again.html)

"A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant and the crazy crazier."
H. L. Mencken

"Any newspaper, from the first line to the last, is nothing but a web of horrors, I cannot understand how an innocent hand can touch a newspaper without convulsing in disgust."
Charles Baudelaire

"America is a country of inventors, and the greatest of inventors are the newspaper men."
Alexander Graham Bell

"Early in life I had noticed that no event is ever correctly reported in a newspaper."
George Orwell

"A newspaper consists of just the same number of words, whether there be any news in it or not."
Henry Fielding

"Accuracy to a newspaper is what virtue is to a lady; but a newspaper can always print a retraction."
Adlai E. Stevenson

"Editor: a person employed by a newspaper, whose business it is to separate the wheat from the chaff, and to see that the chaff is printed."
Elbert Hubbard

"If you don't read the newspaper, you're uninformed. If you read the newspaper, you're misinformed."
Mark Twain

“Newspapers are unable, seemingly to discriminate between a bicycle accident and the collapse of civilization”
George Bernard Shaw

“Everything you read in newspapers is absolutely true, except for that rare story of which you happen to have first-hand knowledge”
Erwin Knoll

Now there's as fine a set of quotes as any I've seen.
 
Quote from rew:

Now there's as fine a set of quotes as any I've seen.

This one is telling:

"A newspaper consists of just the same number of words, whether there be any news in it or not."
Henry Fielding
 
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