Quote from bpcnabe:
Christie has more than a good chance of winning the nomination AND beating a weak incumbant, but....
...he ain't running. I'll take the other side of Maverick's bet.
Quote from trefoil:
I dunno, he may be right. Christie is both sane and brutally truthful, and he'd blow a huge hole in the blue Northeast, one that Obama could never make up anywhere else.
He'd of course take NJ, PA would almost certainly go, and NY would be seriously in play. Florida has a lot of retirees from NJ, so that would give him a good chance of grabbing that one too. It would at minimum force the Dems to spend money on states they thought they could more or less take for granted.
On paper, at least, given the combo of a weak economy and a sane Republican from the Northeast, Obama would be toast. I used to think Christie would wait until 2016, but the problem of getting the nomination is fading fast now that the insane ones are fading, and the problem of winning the general election is pretty much gone, IF the Republicans are smart enough to run someone reasonable, competent, and popular from the North, which is I'm sure what those donors meeting with him are thinking.
There's only one person I can think of who fits that description.
Quote from trefoil:
I dunno, he may be right. Christie is both sane and brutally truthful, and he'd blow a huge hole in the blue Northeast, one that Obama could never make up anywhere else.
He'd of course take NJ, PA would almost certainly go, and NY would be seriously in play. Florida has a lot of retirees from NJ, so that would give him a good chance of grabbing that one too. It would at minimum force the Dems to spend money on states they thought they could more or less take for granted.
On paper, at least, given the combo of a weak economy and a sane Republican from the Northeast, Obama would be toast. I used to think Christie would wait until 2016, but the problem of getting the nomination is fading fast now that the insane ones are fading, and the problem of winning the general election is pretty much gone, IF the Republicans are smart enough to run someone reasonable, competent, and popular from the North, which is I'm sure what those donors meeting with him are thinking.
There's only one person I can think of who fits that description.
Quote from bone:
Fucking Brilliant. Well Done.
My understanding is that there is a large contingent of moderate Dem, Independent, and Republican business types and entrepeneurs who are making a sustained and stupidly well financed pitch at him - and they are being very persistent. Deep pockets. Conviction that will not go away.
Quote from trefoil:
I dunno, he may be right. Christie is both sane and brutally truthful, and he'd blow a huge hole in the blue Northeast, one that Obama could never make up anywhere else.
He'd of course take NJ, PA would almost certainly go, and NY would be seriously in play. Florida has a lot of retirees from NJ, so that would give him a good chance of grabbing that one too. It would at minimum force the Dems to spend money on states they thought they could more or less take for granted.
On paper, at least, given the combo of a weak economy and a sane Republican from the Northeast, Obama would be toast. I used to think Christie would wait until 2016, but the problem of getting the nomination is fading fast now that the insane ones are fading, and the problem of winning the general election is pretty much gone, IF the Republicans are smart enough to run someone reasonable, competent, and popular from the North, which is I'm sure what those donors meeting with him are thinking.
There's only one person I can think of who fits that description.
Quote from Maverick74:
Nope. Dude, his contract just doubled in value. I'm waiting for some size to show up on the offer.
Quote from CaptainObvious:
The republican party does have a problem. The current line up has unelectable written all over it. Yeah, they can appease the crazies in the base, but that's about it. Huntsman is the rational choice of the current gang, but he's just not hostile enough to make them happy. Plus he believes in that crazy evolution stuff putting him at odds with the goofball evangelicals.
Christie could sway people like me. I love his straight forward attitude. I really don't think he's anti labor. He's just anti doing the same stupid shit over and over again. Big difference. So long as the "consultants" and "handlers" didn't try to throttle him back, he'd have a shot. But he's got a big problem and it's his waistline. Yes, it shouldn't be an issue, but it is. They'll play the stress of the presidency could kill a big guy like him, and that's a legit concern to some degree.
You want to see a winning ticket? Christie/Huntsman. Christie will appeal to those that appreciate a straight shooter, even if they sometimes disagree. That works for people like me. I don't expect to agree on every single issue. Just tell it like it is and then go do your f'n job. Huntsman will bring back all those white folk that voted for Obama just to say they did. They've learned their lesson. I know, I talk to many of them everyday. And if Christie drops dead in office, Huntsman ain't a bad second.
Other than that, say hello to four more years of Obama.