Strictly speaking, NoDoji, they were adobe llamingos, named Kokomo and Bogart. Jack and Liz sold them when Jack retired from EMS volunteering. You truly are missing an opportunity by not seeking him out. If I lived there, I certainly would, as he is twelve years older than me and the actuarial tables are not smiling upon him. I have received many PMs from mentees whose experiences with him were quite good. How that squares with his public persona is a mystery to me ("Un mystere! Un boule de gomme!"), but there it is. I fantasize that Jack and I could talk about our favorite laxatives and hemmorhoidal creams and argue about the radically differing terminologies we use to describe trades that we would take exactly the same way. If you do, get him all jollied up and gently whisper in his ear "Hypo sends his regards!", and watch the result. Best to be current on your CPR certs, if so.