China to lose population

[TheDawn]

China's situation is unusual because their population decline will be precipitous. Already today there are many more men than women in some regions. COVID is likely to kill between 2 and 3 million people, mostly elders but probably around 25% of working adults, and urban Chinese are no longer interested in having children.

Ok

What are the consequences to expect?

China needs to get off its high horse always thinking it's the center of the universe and realize that it's just like any other country in the world, unique and important but not important enough that the world is going to collapse without it.

Full employment and higher pay. China's export directed economy will need to automate its manufacturing sector and let the machines do the work that today is done by thousands of low paid labor. China is unlikely to let in foreigners the way western nations have to compensate for their labor shortage.

The Taiwan situation is time sensitive. China cannot have a million men military when there are not enough to plow the fields or work in offices. Xi is under pressure to trigger this war before the military shrinks for lack of men and due to tighter budgets. But a war means a further population shrinkage of able men and women and its outcome is uncertain. The economy minded apparatchiks may exert enough pressure to do away with Xi and his hawkish cohort in exchange for a conciliatory western response to the 1 China policy.
A smaller China doesn't necessarily mean a weaker China. Their work ethic, competitive spirit and scientific prowess will continue to challenge western hegemony.

Nah that's ok. China will be fine. The all-mighty Xi will think of something. People of China are used to waiting. That's why they live so long.

 

[VicBee]

If you look at the data, the EU, OECD, Japan, and USA and Russia have much older populations than China and crude death rates are higher than China.

Higher percentage of older people that's correct. Most of Europe have around 20% of their population 65 and older, while China is 12%.

https://fortune.com/2023/01/18/chin...-60-years-transform-economy-politics-society/

 

[TheDawn]

All central family or population planning policies have been a disaster.
Here is a good example.
Population planning in Singapore - Wikipedia

As for China, just multiply by another 300-400X.
Forced abortion, infanticide just to name a few.
Now, not enough.

Yeah cuz they all of sudden realized they don't have enough workforce to take care of the aging population. Maybe that's why they invented covid that impacts the old disproportionally...

No no, it was the bats, the bats!!!

 

[murray t turtle]

Yeah cuz they all of sudden realized they don't have enough workforce to take care of the aging population. Maybe that's why they invented covid that impacts the old disproportionally...

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Good thinking\ i dont think they meant to help US with its Social Security long term problem; but the Chicoms did USa an accidental favor with that bio weapon.
WSJ had a good article about the Chicoms killing all of the sparrows\central planners against the little sparrow grain eaters.
\OOPs\ the grasshopper crop eating plauge that followed\ killed \starved many millions ,

 

[SunTrader]

If you look at the data, the EU, OECD, Japan, and USA and Russia have much older populations than China and crude death rates are higher than China.

Median average age U.S. 38.1 yrs

Median average age China 38.4 yrs

But BTW what are "crude" death rates?

 

[hilmy83]

Millions more horny men from that stupid one child policy will probably destabilize the world lol

 

[TheDawn]

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Good thinking\ i dont think they meant to help US with its Social Security long term problem; but the Chicoms did USa an accidental favor with that bio weapon.
WSJ had a good article about the Chicoms killing all of the sparrows\central planners against the little sparrow grain eaters.

Well for the record, Donald Trump DID want to ban all flights from China during the beginning of the covid pandemic so to still be stuck with the "Social Security long term problem" but China got mad shouting "racism" and "discrimination" and threatened with this and that and the globalists all got scared and whined to their connections inside the white house and Trump backed off. And now here we are, still stuck with the "Social Security long term problem" and now have to deal with inflation too.

 

[murray t turtle]

Well for the record, Donald Trump DID want to ban all flights from China during the beginning of the covid pandemic so to still be stuck with the "Social Security long term problem" but China got mad shouting "racism" and "discrimination" and threatened with this and that and the globalists all got scared and whined to their connections inside the white house and Trump backed off. And now here we are, still stuck with the "Social Security long term problem" and now have to deal with inflation too.

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SO never rely on one income stream, especially a gov or anyone else.
NO wonder Paul Tudor jones bought a farm+ shoots ducks.
Globalists[edit WEF.....]?? Mr Musk tweeted S in ESG= satanic, Lets see WEF, C [control freak ] Schwab give up all he's got + be happy\LOL
NOT related to Charles Schwab or IBKR founder.

 

[mervyn]

This is nothingburger. In our life time, China still have 1.3 billion at least.

India already took the title last year, lot of hungry people to feed.

 

[TheDawn]

Millions more horny men from that stupid one child policy will probably destabilize the world lol

Well to its credit, it's not the stupid one-child policy that produced millions more horny men; it's the systematic sexism and paternalistic obsession preferring male over female that's entrenched in its culture to the point of being willing to destroy female lives that did. Same phenomenon in India. India doesn't have one-child policy, still produced millions more horny men that have to resort to rape to get some.