China to Europe: You are just too damn lazy.

oldtime · Oct 31, 2011

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move that mason-dixon line to the Texas border, find a modern day Tubman and form a new underground railroad and when they finally make it to Cairo they'll finally be free.

Cairo Il still protects escaped slaves , right?

let's build a fence to keep them in

oldtime · Oct 31, 2011

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let's build a fence to keep them in

or we could set up an exchange program. We'll give you back some of yours if you give us back some of ours.

oldtime · Oct 31, 2011

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or we could set up an exchange program. We'll give you back some of yours if you give us back some of ours.

We could give it a nice name like "The Department of Immigration" and make the whole thing socially acceptable.

oldtime · Oct 31, 2011

at any rate, if you really want to see who is better, China Europe or USA or any other country for that matter, just imagine a world where if you could come up with bus fare, air fare or boat fare or just walk you could live wherever you wanted. And then see who starts putting up fences to keep their citizens in. And also who starts dropping benefits to keep people out.

Random.Capital · Oct 31, 2011

My father ran the old Curtain (took 3 attempts) and then spent two years in an Italian refugee camp. I'm pretty sure I know what his choice would be...

Random.Capital · Oct 31, 2011

In all seriousness, for all the rightful ribbing the EU takes, the notion that we can put up barricades to labor and then have "free trade" with managed currencies is fundamentally the same thing as what our Euro friends have been attempting.

We're just driving towards the same cliff from a different direction.

oldtime · Oct 31, 2011

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In all seriousness, for all the rightful ribbing the EU takes, the notion that we can put up barricades to labor and then have "free trade" with managed currencies is fundamentally the same thing as what our Euro friends have been attempting.

We're just driving towards the same cliff from a different direction.

yeah, your original post kind of set me off. To be honest with you I never really thought about it. But we have capitalism and all embrace it when it comes to money, but something more akin to slavery when it comes to people.

Goods are free to move between nations, but not the people who make them. "Free Trade" only refers to things, not people.

oldtime · Oct 31, 2011

The most pathetic thing I've read in a while was a story over on the Ag Forum about Con Agra. Their biggest supplier of cocoa was the Ivory Coast, but the war got so bad they started looking for another place. Ivory Coast supplies 75% of the worlds cocoa. So conagra looked around and figured viet nam had about the same climate as Ivory coast so they just set up farmers there and tried to teach them how to grow cocoa. It would have been easier just to show up with a big plane in the Ivory Coast and say, "Anyone who wants to grow cocoa in Viet Nam hop on, they already had their war and you can make good money and the climate is about the same as here."

AKUMATOTENSHI · Nov 1, 2011

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yeah, your original post kind of set me off. To be honest with you I never really thought about it. But we have capitalism and all embrace it when it comes to money, but something more akin to slavery when it comes to people.

Goods are free to move between nations, but not the people who make them. "Free Trade" only refers to things, not people.

False, International corperation will move people from bussiness unit to bussiness unit at will. Free TRade is nothing more than a deceptive moniker. It is only ment for the uber wealthy not the lowly commoners/consumers.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/45099208

This just came out. It is going to happen because once Bejing starts growing it understands one thing all and everyrhing. Complete global domination is imminent. The tide of wealth is staying it course and assimilation is turning out to be the only option. Disparities in class is thed next major hurdle for humanity. We are also due for break through technology and when that hits it could be a game changer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_emerging_technologies

Welcome to Planet Misery,

Akuma

BUY GOLD

Random.Capital · Nov 1, 2011

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False, International corperation will move people from bussiness unit to bussiness unit at will.

Not on this planet, it won't, if that movement crosses international borders.

The US, Canada and Mexico are supposedly embraced in the BroHug called NAFTA - there is no way in hell Ford (US) would be allowed to bring in 20,000 workers (Mexico) to a Windsor (Canada) production plant.

Imagine Intel trying to bring a few thousand line-experienced Malaysians into a Beaverton fab...not going to happen....