China semiconductor industry decapitated
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Oh yes this is the ban based on national security concerns because the company is directly controlled by the Chinese military. Yes because by investing in these stocks, we will be directly supporting the Chinese military which is building weapons to kill us. This is a very fair ban. Would you like to invest in stocks of companies that are controlled by Al-Qaeda or ISIS??
I don't know why you need to put it in such huge fonts to waste @Baron's server space.
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If you are truly loyal (which you are supposed to be) to your adoptive country to which you have become a citizen, the choice shouldn't be hard especially when you know your native country is trying to destroy your adoptive country. The least that they can do is stay neutral. It's like your birth mother has all of sudden decided to annihilate your adoptive mother who has given you everything, your education, your work experience by helping you to find your first job, are you going to go back to your birth mother and help her with all the information that you have on your adoptive mother and build weapons against your adoptive mother? And what about your children who were born in your adoptive mother's house and who have always grown up with their adoptive grandmother, the only grandmother that they know and are now living in their adoptive grandmother? Should they be killed now also because they choose to be loyal to their adoptive grandmother and stay with their adoptive grandmother?
Like I said before in my previous post,
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Both Taiwanese. CEO of Nvidia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jensen_Huang CEO of AMD: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_Su
I think they are very happy. They are probably the ones who lobbied Biden to do this. As much as I am trying to give credit to Biden, I seriously doubt that Biden did this totally out of his own free will.
That's UN, under tremendous pressure from PRC, NOT US. One letter difference makes a world of difference.
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If he truly is from China and not a mindless troll, it's incredible how much brainwashing he's been subjected to by the CCP. I feel like we are deprogramming somebody from a cult. It's scary...
Do potatoes help steer missiles and drones, and help crack cryptographic security?
I'm just saying you're absolutely wrong and those are screenshots so Baron's OK with it.
let's simplify things w/o using the shittiest of analogies.
US persons are now barred from working on Semis in China (at this time US citizens (born and naturalized) as well as PR's and foreign student grads from American universities working abroad should be considered "US persons" imo). Citizens will be ok, PR's will likely be OK, students at this point are SOL unless the ban comes w/some protections or the US risks losing them to Chinese recruiters and disclosing what they've learned.
It is safe to assume the above went to work abroad willingly or they wouldn't be there, so now they're being told to go against their will and leave their jobs on a broadened definition of nat sec.. All I'm saying is anyone would be pissed to do something against their will. Having said all that, nat. sec trumps feelings, tough break, China asked for it by continuing to steal IP through industrial espionage, hacking and belligerence.
from ASML memo:
The Dutch firm said in a memo that any U.S. staff, including American citizens, green card holders and foreign nationals living in the U.S., “are prohibited from providing certain services to advanced fabs in China.”
If we want shitty analogies, do you think naturalized Americans working for Canadian steel who lost their jobs to Trump's steel ban on nat. sec. grounds were happy?
looks like retail is affected after all so doubt this affects only citizens w/clearance.....I had imagined that'd be the case given the nature of IC tech. We're basically not selling shovels to gold diggers if gold was weapons.
The new regulations will also severely restrict export of US equipment to Chinese memory chip makers and formalize letters sent to Nvidia Corp and Advanced Micro Devices Inc (AMD) restricting shipments to China of chips used in supercomputing systems that nations around the world rely on to develop nuclear weapons and other military technologies.
Reuters was first to report key details of the new restrictions on memory chip makers, including a reprieve for foreign companies operating in China and the moves to broaden restrictions on shipments to China of technologies from KLA, Lam, Applied Materials, Nvidia and AMD.
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