China semiconductor industry decapitated

[Peter8519]

‘Taiwan is f*ked regardless of the chips. Its export to China is over 60%, only surplus is the trades with China. Chips are nothing until recent decades. China is always wanting it back, is its Crimea.

If this website can be trusted, TW export to China + HK is about 40%.
Bureau of Foreign Trade --Trade Statistics

 

[earth_imperator]

The US does not learn from recent examples: the EU idiots thought they can do w/o Russian oil & gas, and now have oil and gas shortages and skyrocketing oil and gas prices.

I think similar will happen with electronics made in the West (if any ): skyrocketing prices due to chip shortages, b/c China soon will retaliate...

 

[d08]

Wait, let me make sure I understand this correctly: the US wants to reign in a totalitarian regime by threatening to strip Americans off their CITIZENSHIP if they don't quit their jobs? So American Chinese would be left only with their Chinese citizenship. What about Americans who have no other citizenship? They become stateless?

How is it even possible to have citizenship revoked, whether someone was born American or naturalized? Let me get this straight, so you can murder, rape, be the most extremist racist, mass shoot homosexuals or whatever other crime you could possibly imagine and you won't ever lose your American citizenship. Yet, now you happen to work at a Chinese semiconductor company and they want to take your citizenship away? If this is not an April fools then this makes me lose my last little bit of respect for this shit nation. Even @d08, who usually sides by default against Russia and China must be having serious issues with that.

Only shows how desperate and in decline the US really is. I predicted this in many threads, which is that the US will start foul play when it realizes that it's decline can't be stopped and that fair means of competition don't work anymore. Perfect example of a case of unpleasant player of "Mensch Ärger Dich Nicht".

If true this would be the most repulsive and anti democratic decision and treatment of own citizens in the entire American history. Even war deserters or draft dodgers did not lose their citizenship.

I wouldn't read so much into it from an article. It's unlikely they can be stripped of citizenship, it's not that easy. They can have bank accounts frozen and can face jail-time of course. In the global superpower fight, all resources are weaponised. It's actually a smart move by the Americans, there's no point in playing nice with the likes of Russia and China. One of those already chose direct war instead, so I think rough diplomacy is much better than actual dead people in the thousands.

 

[earth_imperator]

What I like about your posts is all my seething anger at America go away and instead I want a flag tattooed on my chest and tell you to fk off

B/c you are so simple minded... You can put me into your ignore list!

 

[mervyn]

If this website can be trusted, TW export to China + HK is about 40%.
Bureau of Foreign Trade --Trade Statistics

I take the official data with a grain of salt. Taiwan businesses in China like Foxconn exports to other countries count as China export, particularly in semiconductor and shipping.

 

[M.W.]

Agree with most points, though stripping citizens of their nationality and passport and making them stateless is a whole new level. Goes against everything this country claims it stands for and defends. Unless of course the new benchmark are rogue states. Would not be the first time. The elites in the US who wrote and enforce the laws since foundation are panicking over being compared with other leading industrialized nations. Much easier to compare oneself with Venezuela, China, and Russia.

I wouldn't read so much into it from an article. It's unlikely they can be stripped of citizenship, it's not that easy. They can have bank accounts frozen and can face jail-time of course. In the global superpower fight, all resources are weaponised. It's actually a smart move by the Americans, there's no point in playing nice with the likes of Russia and China. One of those already chose direct war instead, so I think rough diplomacy is much better than actual dead people in the thousands.

 

[ph1l]

So American Chinese would be left only with their Chinese citizenship. What about Americans who have no other citizenship? They become stateless?

They would both be stateless because China does not allow dual citizenship.

https://www.thenation.com/article/w... United States allows,it is outlawed in China.

 

[schizo]

Wait, let me make sure I understand this correctly: the US wants to reign in a totalitarian regime by threatening to strip Americans off their CITIZENSHIP if they don't quit their jobs? So American Chinese would be left only with their Chinese citizenship. What about Americans who have no other citizenship? They become stateless?

How is it even possible to have citizenship revoked, whether someone was born American or naturalized? Let me get this straight, so you can murder, rape, be the most extremist racist, mass shoot homosexuals or whatever other crime you could possibly imagine and you won't ever lose your American citizenship. Yet, now you happen to work at a Chinese semiconductor company and they want to take your citizenship away? If this is not an April fools then this makes me lose my last little bit of respect for this shit nation. Even @d08, who usually sides by default against Russia and China must be having serious issues with that.

Only shows how desperate and in decline the US really is. I predicted this in many threads, which is that the US will start foul play when it realizes that it's decline can't be stopped and that fair means of competition don't work anymore. Perfect example of a case of unpleasant player of "Mensch Ärger Dich Nicht".

If true this would be the most repulsive and anti democratic decision and treatment of own citizens in the entire American history. Even war deserters or draft dodgers did not lose their citizenship.

So would locking up those who work for Chinese be a better solution?

Even though I agree that stripping one's citizenship is going too far, this mandate is in effect the same thing as any previous sanctions the US government has imposed against other countries (eg, Iran, North Korea, etc). If I'm not mistaken, and I'm pretty damn sure I'm not, you are not allowed to do any type of business with those under sanction.

 

[schizo]

The timing and muted Chinese response is interesting though. My guess is the WH sought this opportunity of economic uncertainty (which China's feeling as well) to lessen retaliatory sanctions ("they can't afford it").

But why do I get the feeling that Chinese orchestrated the present inflationary climate with their zero-corona BS, thereby creating a supply bottleneck? Wasn't that their intention all along, namely to destabilize the West, especially the US?

 

[schizo]

The US and other Western companies affected of course demand compensation from the US govt.
In the end it's as usual the US taxpayer that has to pay the consequences of such idiotic actions of this senile idiot in the WH.
US can not compete fairly, so it must use such desperate dirty actions & tricks...
It's futile, man! Only a loser would act as unfairly as such. US already is a loser
How big must the fear be by this sicko USA soon to be overtaken by China...

USA is not aware that it's alone, as nobody else will support it, except some bribed "friend" tiny countries, ie. bought vassals...

I'm sure this sicko idea comes from the overlords (the puppet master) of the US govt, the "Globalists"...

Hey @Baron, you need to create "Dislike" button.