China retaliation predictions?

[ElCubano]

The Chinese are good people ... smart and industrious. But they have been cheating the system (IP, trade, Currency manipulation, etc) and they’ve been fingered.
America has been enjoying the short term fruit for the long term pain.
Well now the long term pain is approaching and the one way to alleviate it somewhat is to get China to play fair.
If they continue to play cards crooked, we pick up our chips and walk away.
Only a loser continues to play a game that’s rigged.

Keep talking to them and convince them to put that Ace back in the deck.

If talks stop - all bets are off.

I love Trumpy not backing down. He’s got it right.

Trumps All In with a McBluffer!

 

[matthewyoung]

Jawboning, phoney, lies... merely to manipulate the market in the short term.

The real trade war, if there is going to be one, will continue for a long time. China is in the catbird seat and has virtually unlimited patience to work out the best deal they can hammer. Trump is facing an election in 18 months. Who do you think has the upper hand here?

Sad but true. Democracy undermines itself.

 

[matthewyoung]

People will remember Trump's remark,
‘Trade wars are good, and easy to win’

It may be the equal of Irving Fischer's , never to be forgotten remark just prior to the 1929 crash:" the stock market has reached a permanently high plateau."

I mean, this one is good and easy to win: all you have to do is not back down from the chinese.

 

[matthewyoung]

As they doing already doing in Africa and South America they are buying real assets inc. farm land and infrastructure like ports. they have no reason to hold US treasury paper backed by fiat paper of a dying empire. China won't roll over maturing paper. now, just may be a good time to sell US paper as risk on(fearful) traders rush to buy US paper at elevated prices.

Would be glorious if those governments confiscate chinese assets like china does with foreign technology.

 

[Cuddles]

Would be glorious if those governments confiscate chinese assets like china does with foreign technology.

Except foreign firms willingly volunteer it as the price to pay for sweat shop labor pricing

 

[ironchef]

no sane person will do that.

That is a big assumption.

 

[ironchef]

China has been fleecing the US for 3 decades now.

Let me get your logic: We print money to buy their goods, so they are fleecing us?

 

[toc]

Let me get your logic: We print money to buy their goods, so they are fleecing us?

https://www.thebalance.com/who-owns-the-u-s-national-debt-3306124

China has built up foreign currency reserves of more than $3T.......wonder how?

In February 2019, China owned $1.13 trillion of U.S. debt. It's the largest foreign holder of U.S. Treasury securities. The second largest holder is Japan at $1.07 trillion. Both Japan and China want to keep the value of the dollar higher than the value of their currencies. That helps keep their exports affordable for the United States, which helps their economies grow.

 

[joyice]

Do you think voters,in the following presidential decision, will excuse Trump for failing the market?

 

[bone]

Wait till they devalue the Yuan and start selling off our trillions in debt...

You DO realize that selling one Trillion dollars worth of US debt would DEPRESS the US Dollar ?