China knows this so China doesn't wander to the Outback or the no man's land. It goes into the developed land, land that Australians have already done all the hard work to develop and tried to build "infrastructure" there.
China pushes back against US sanctions with new rules
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China knows this so China doesn't wander to the Outback or the no man's land. It goes into the developed land, land that Australians have already done all the hard work to develop and tried to build "infrastructure" there.
That's not knowing the Chinese! They'd come in, eat anything that moves, settle the aboriginals in designated tower cities and build up the country to accommodate 100 million people. Probably in less than 30 years."Land that Australians have already done the hard work to develop"...?
Either you've never been to China, or you've never been to Australia, but that sentence is hilarious.Who do you think built the Australian railway?
Iran does not have any "democratic aspirations" LOL, for a very brief period of time, yes the Shah had embraced western democratic ideologies and wanted to implement it there but that was not a fit culturally to the conservative Islamic whatever that was so central to its culture. Iran was doing great under the Shah but somehow people just didn't want western culture. They preferred to be ruled by Islamic fundamentalism even if it means going backwards in economic development, giving up human rights, relinquishing freedom. The Iranian revolution was peaceful and had no precipitating cause. That's not US or any US corporations' problem. They did nothing to put a dictator like Khomeini in power.
Vietnam is another story, it was a tale of two countries. Northern part of Vietnam was poor, ruled by the Communists, and southern part of Vietnam was richer and was ruled by democracy. The northern part didn't like that, with help from China and Russia (Soviet Union at the time) wanted the rich South for itself by "uniting" the two parts of the country under one system, Communism. USA personally went down to South Vietnam to try to help Southern Vietnamese to try to push back against basically three countries, China, Soviet Union and Northern Vietnam fighting as one to safeguard democracy. So you can't blame US or US corporations there again for not wanting to spread or defend democracy.
And the same or similar stories like what happened in Vietnam can be said in many South American countries like Chile or Venezuela and etc. So if you want to talk about America and its role in spreading or defending or not defending or whatever about democracy, you need to talk in perspective and not everything out of context.
And China is not that innocent as you believe in just wanting to preserve its way of going on doing its business and not bothering others. No that might be their rhetoric thirty years ago when they were developing their economy, because they needed to present a peaceful image to the world in order that nobody bothers them so they can develop their economy and make money quietly and effectively. Not that they've made money, they are not content in just confining in their own boundary anymore, their country is already developed, their ambition is now developing the world. Otherwise, why are they so keen on developing this "one belt, one road" project? And deliberately bypassing all the western countries that practice democracy?
No, they want to take over the rest of the world under its belt (pun intended and unintended) and turn around and annihilate or assimilate the west and its ideologies, typical of Chinese Go strategy.
For those of you who are interested in protecting our western democracy and our way of life, I strongly recommend you to learn how to play the Chinese Go chess. Everything that China is doing right now is encompassed in that chess. The West is not the one who is interested in spreading its democracy here. In contrast, the West is the one who is just interested in preserving its own way of doing things. Biden just announced a $2-trillion to build its domestic infrastructure. It's not interested in any military projects or any foreign aid projects. The West is in survival mode here; it's on its defense here to try to protect its western democracy and its way of life, its culture. And yet China is the one who is invading here. https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/chinese-hackers-charged-in-equifax-breach-021020
Mao Tse Tong believed 2/3 of the world population lives in utmost misery and it's up to China to defeat the evil imperialism and save the people who are suffering. China is just finishing what Mao has started. Too bad its vaccines is not living up to people's expectations. Its effective rate after 2 doses is just 50% and its effective rate is only 3% after the first dose. The countries among the "2/3 of the world suffering population" is not doing that well after buying its vaccines. https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/19/cov...it-record-levels-despite-vaccine-rollout.html They are still suffering.
"Land that Australians have already done the hard work to develop"...?
Who do you think built the Australian railway?
Yeah that entire Australia is just railways yes. China built the entire Australia. Australians did nothing. @themickey would love that statement. LOL
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The New York Post is a "far right" news source. LOL
So China's "rules before rights", "limits over freedom", the 2nd-generation riches and 2nd-generation bureaucrat elites having more privileges and can basically be above the law over ordinary citizens are actually "left"?It's difficult to communicate with you because clearly international affairs isn't your area of expertise. You voice your prejudices covering them with general knowledge. It would take more time than I care to spend going over each or your incorrect or biased points. I'll let you rant and will go about my business.The New York Post is a "far right" news source. LOL
Yeah cuz you know you've got nothing to say. Very elegant way to concede. Your boss in China should learn to do that.
Read the history of Iran for its democratic aspirations. Hint, it predates the Shah who was installed by the US and whose reign of terror led the population to prefer Khomeini!
Vietnam, same, read its pre communist history all the way prior to French Indochina.
Chile, same, read about Chile's 60s era prior to the coup that thwarted democratic elections when the people voted for a centrist socialist.
While you're at it, you might want to read up on US involvement propping and supporting dictatorships throughout South and Central America in the 60s through 80s. We called it anti communist support of course. Our overt and covert support meant our corporations had preferential treatment, some of which even nearly owned countries. We helped create an elite class which came with repressive regimes to keep the peasants at bay.
I never said China was innocent. In fact, I say China is just as corrupt and guilty as the US advancing their special interests wrapped in democratic and free enterprise ideals.
We were the top dogs post WW2 until the early 90s, that's a long time! But we got fat and lazy and believed we were invincible, something about being god anointed... But the rest of the world caught up, the countries of Europe created Europe and its ideal, no small feat, and made it much stronger than it was to compete with the gorilla in the room. Then Asian nations worked really, really hard demonstrating their capabilities while we crushed their cars and called them every racist word in the book. First the Japanese, then the Koreans and now the Chinese. Each is out there to prove that they can do as well as, if not better, than the other guy and the US.
They did, they are and, while we are still very good at many things, we are no longer good at many more things that we were the best at. And instead of taking on the healthy competitive challenge, we point fingers and spew racist hatred.