China pulls ahead in Stem Cells, U.S. invests in old businesses (autos, finance)

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Quote from IShopAtPublix:

US in the 19th century(and later on) attracted people with ideas who were escaping static societies in europe.

it's also hype related, some few years ago everyone was on myspace, but then everyone started jumping on facebook, eventually they will get bored of that sh*t too and jump to some other social networking site.

The question is for how long can America market the idea that America is the place to work and live in? And who will this marketing be targeted towards, people who are already losers in their own countries or decent people? (hell quality matters, even if you f_k a billion old ladies you won't get what you get from doing a gorgeous 18 year old). And even if you succeed in attracting decent people, for how long can you sustain their stay in your country, will it be that they will come and realize that the so called dream land is full of as much BS as their own country, and leave disappointed, damaging what has remained of the countries reputation?

It really shouldn't matter to you if China will become another US or not, what should concern you is that this country is not moving forward, for the last 10 years this country has achieved nothing. A war machine that couldn't even win a pathetic war against a third world country with a population less than 1/10th of it's own.

 

[IShopAtPublix]

Quote from 426653478:

it's also hype related, some few years ago everyone was on myspace, but then everyone started jumping on facebook, eventually they will get bored of that sh*t too and jump to some other social networking site.

The question is for how long can America market the idea that America is the place to work and live in? And who will this marketing be targeted towards, people who are already losers in their own countries or decent people? (hell quality matters, even if you f_k a billion old ladies you won't get what you get from doing a gorgeous 18 year old). And even if you succeed in attracting decent people, for how long can you sustain their stay in your country, will it be that they will come and realize that the so called dream land is full of as much BS as their own country, and leave disappointed, damaging what has remained of the countries reputation?

It really shouldn't matter to you if China will become another US or not, what should concern you is that this country is not moving forward, for the last 10 years this country has achieved nothing. A war machine that couldn't even win a pathetic war against a third world country with a population less than 1/10th of it's own.

Until the credit collapse, I would rather live in Switzerland. Now with idiots at UBS&Credit Suisse that country could conceivably become another Iceland (hopefully not).

China will NOT suck talent from other countries. Ain't going to happen. US did for a long long time. Ever heard of "brain drain"?

US has a lot of problems, I would be the first to point this out, but US on its worst day is still a trillion times better than China on its best day.

 

[Pa(b)st Prime]

The only think taking my breath away is YOUR stupidity in believing Bush "banned" stem cell research. All he did was ban Federal tax dollars from supporting it.

Quote from powerfade:

Didn't George Bush ban stem cell research because of pressure from the cruelest people on the planet, the radical religious right?

The myopia and sheer stupidity of that decision takes the breath away.

 

[powerfade]

Quote from IShopAtPublix:
China will NOT suck talent from other countries. Ain't going to happen.

This is misleading. The last few posts betray a lack of international travel and experience with immigrants.

The facts are these. The days when people overseas looked at the U.S. as a place to emigrate and start a new life in the hopes that future generations of their families will have a better life are gone.

The new trend is to come to the U.S., spend 30 years working here, and then go back home.

The brain drain has morphed. It's now an opportunity drain. Wander over to any big University and you'll feel like you're at a UN meeting. Foreign kids come here to get the best education in the world, and then either go home with it or work here for a while and then go home. This is the new brain drain.

Why are the foreign kids able to grab all the spots in American Universities? In part because their parents work their hands to the bone and save every penny, and also because PC leftist thinking has created a situation in which you can't give a kid a grade in this country because if it's not an 'A', it might injure his self-esteem. Foreign kids consider academic achievement their #1 priority and work their asses off to be the best.

 

[jficquette]

Quote from IShopAtPublix:

China will not be another US. 2008 olympics proved that to me decisively.

While China was busy "putting its best face for the world" entry and exit into beijing were restricted and certain polluting industries were (temporarily) shut down(God forbid tourists saw the horrible air quality in beijing, lol).

No freedom, no individualism and no sense of entrepreneurship. "chinese miracle" is nothing more than enslaving and prostituting of a large portion of the population for the benefit of few.

I agree.

 

[powerfade]

Quote from Pa(b)st Prime:
The only think taking my breath away is YOUR stupidity in believing Bush "banned" stem cell research. All he did was ban Federal tax dollars from supporting it.

Amazing that anyone could believe a ban on federal funding for such crucial research, based on a faith-based view that it is somehow 'immoral', doesn't constitute a de facto ban on research. Anyhow, I'm not going to get into it with the religious right (which is possibly the most futile thing anyone could try to do, given that their beliefs are based on a mass hallucination). Bush banned the research and Obama, for all his obvious faults, lifted the ban, which is the best thing he's done in his presidency so far.

 

[jficquette]

Quote from powerfade:

Amazing that anyone could believe a ban on federal funding for such crucial research, based on a faith-based view that it is somehow 'immoral', doesn't constitute a de facto ban on research. Anyhow, I'm not going to get into it with the religious right. Bush banned the research and Obama, for all his obvious faults, lifted the ban, which is the best thing he's done in his presidency so far.

Their is plenty of private money for stem cell reseach for those with potential to come up with solutions. Federally funded stem cell research was all about giving money out to mariginal scientists who will most likely never come up with anything.

BTW, He didn't lift it because he ended up signing a bill having it prohibted lol.


http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=44943


"(CNSNews.com) - On Wednesday, only two days after he lifted President Bush’s executive order banning federal funding of stem cell research that requires the destruction of human embryos, President Barack Obama signed a law that explicilty bans federal funding of any "research in which a human embryo or embryos are destroyed, discarded, or knowingly subjected to risk of injury or death."

 

[Eight]

Quote from jficquette:

Their is plenty of private money for stem cell reseach for those with potential to come up with solutions. Federally funded stem cell research was all about giving money out to mariginal scientists who will most likely never come up with anything.

BTW, He didn't lift it because he ended up signing a bill having it prohibted lol.


http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=44943


"(CNSNews.com) - On Wednesday, only two days after he lifted President Bush’s executive order banning federal funding of stem cell research that requires the destruction of human embryos, President Barack Obama signed a law that explicilty bans federal funding of any "research in which a human embryo or embryos are destroyed, discarded, or knowingly subjected to risk of injury or death."

He was for it before he was against it..

 

[Eight]

Quote from powerfade:


I just re-read your post. I missed this part. There's no question that you're a moron - I'm not even going to bother explaining why because this statement makes it obvious. It's Sunday - have you been speaking in tongues this morning?

Inform us as to embroyonic stem cell research that is paying off then. The stuff that is offered commercially outside the US is adult stem cell stuff. I heard that the embroyonic stuff never paid off at all but what would I know, I just managed a medical research lab!! It was not in stem cells at all though, maybe you can inform me...

You have made about a half dozen attacking assertions with nothing to back them.. that smells like you are some asshole that will lower my serotonin with attacks and not inform me of anything new.. that is my criterion for the ignore list... Yahoo boards are the place for you likely...

 

[powerfade]

Quote from Eight:

Inform us as to embroyonic stem cell research that is paying off then. The stuff that is offered commercially outside the US is adult stem cell stuff. I heard that the embroyonic stuff never paid off at all but what would I know, I just managed a medical research lab!!

Were you an astronaut too?

Whatever. Like I said, I'm not going to waste my time explaining how research works and why we need to commit to it for the long term.

You and your ilk are the same ones who would have said to Oppie 'What, you think you're going to be able to create a bomb that goes off because you release the power in a few atoms? They've tried that and it didn't work'. You're the type who would tell any researcher who was facing failures that he should just quit because nothing's coming of his work.

Thank goodness American innovation wasn't left to people like you.

On Ignore.