China Moves to Save Gaddafi as Russia Warns Of ‘All Out War’

Quote from JackGreen:

Agree. There are plenty of countries with people that need "liberating" yet we ignore them when they're oil free.

The US doesn't care about international humanity anymore than they care helping those within it's own borders. It's pretty pathetic actually.

I disagree. What makes Libya different is not the oil, although that does give the president easier justification for getting involved. The obvious difference is the strength and viability of the rebellion. In the real world these decisions are based not just on principles but also on pragmatism. Obviously we can't go in and liberate people who don't have anywhere near the organization or mobilization to finish the process of regime change.
 
Quote from macroman:

BS. it is not about oil at all.

It is about oil for Europe. Not oil for US. That is why US initially opposed it and only reluctantly joined.

For those who believe the UN intervention in Somalia was about humanirtarian purposes, that was only part of the reason. Yes, in addition to pirates, Somalia also has oil. US companies had signed contracts with the deposed gov't in somalia before the civil war ousted the gov't.
 
Quote from Kassz007:

Commie!

I don't understand the purpose of your post. Are you saying only that gov't should plan ahead? I would say that all forms of gov't should do some long term planning.
 
Endsongs.....You make the most sense out of all the post.

People, mainly the scum bag left, like the ones posting on ET most of the time, never do their homework. They are clueless on facts and the talk with their ass.

The have no idea that the US imports the majority of oil from Mexico, Canada, Gulf. Sure, we import around 30% (Figures you have to check because they change often) of Arab Oil.

However, the EU is total depended on ARAB OIL, near 80%.

The UK has her North Sea OIL but still imports a lot more than the US from Arab Land.

IRAQ was about OIL in the sense it was about saving the EMU"s ass.

This time, NATO is taking on the head roll.

By the way, this war is unconstitutional and a impeachable offense if congress follows up on, which I doubt cuz they have no balls.


And the IDIOT and CHIEF lies once again!

http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/262910/obama-no-us-forces-ground-libya-except-those-guys
 
You kinda sound like you know your shit on Oil, EMR. Bout the only thing I know about oil is how to trade the blasted futures. Damn profitable instrument if you know how to play it -- long or short :D

Quote from EMRGLOBAL:

RICEROCKET, your a mistaken.


China has been buying up Natural Resources around the world since 06. One project i deal with is OIL. I raise money to drill DPPs, (Direct Participation Programs) in Oil and Gas. While we funded 20 million in 08 for the BAKKEN SHALE project, China bought 2 to 3 billion worth of "Producing" oil fields overseas. Not only that, they have been buying up Rare Metals, Mining rights in Afghanistan and Indonesia.

There is no "WAR" and the EU paper is full of shit.



The US has been a bunch of idiots for not focusing on the Oil and Gas overseas or mining rights. But China has not been an enemy on this issue, just smarter.

And if Libya was about oil, then why does China own the majority of the Rights to OIL in IRAQ? The US did not move in that direction?

I think the only thing you know about ASIA is the fact that you may drive a Honda. That's about it.


Bottom line, China has played a damn good game of Poker. Not only have they bought AMERICA but they have secured a lot of Natural Resources around the world. All the while, the US worried about what it would look like if we Bought the OIL rights in IRAQ and Mining rights in Afghanistan.

The US has drop'd the ball on this one and we will pay heavy for it. But, an all out war on Resources is bullshit.

FYI: it is close to 12 midnight central time and I'm about to call my clients in Shanghai. I deal with China on a regular bases. Right now, we are working on a deal that will allow China to buy up some of our "Key" industry and "Key" Infrastructure. America is for sell and China is still buying.
 
Africa is the most resource rich continent on the planet. Unfortunately for the vast majority of the countries in that continent they lack the knowledge and technology to take advantage of it but I think that's about to change, one way or another. You all remember McCain saying the US would be in the Middle East for the next hundred years, right? It was a bit of a slip for him during the campaign but you can be certain such a thing has been discussed among many a boardroom table, both private and public. He didn't mis-speak. He just said the wrong thing at the wrong time.

Quote from endsongs:

China is concerned because they thought they had Africa all to themselves, mostly, after the West basically stole the precious metals and abandoned the continent. Now that the prices for many non PM resources are rising rapidly, perhaps the West now sees Africa as more than just pirates, hunger, disease, etc... China, which plans out for decades and not just to the next 3 month earnings statement or the next election, already has a huge foothold in Africa, with (according to an article I recdently read) upwards of 2million or more workers/engineers in the continent. The West has a lot of catching up to do. Especially with the African Union's recent opposition to the bombing of Libya...
 
Hello EMR thank ou for the insight.

Do you have an opinion on the Picken's plan? I was reading about it last night on his web site.

Just my far far off opinion: If we do not develop our offshore and other resources, at some point someone else will take them... By force or more likely threat of force. Modern gun boat diplomacy.



Quote from EMRGLOBAL:

Endsongs.....You make the most sense out of all the post.

People, mainly the scum bag left, like the ones posting on ET most of the time, never do their homework. They are clueless on facts and the talk with their ass.

The have no idea that the US imports the majority of oil from Mexico, Canada, Gulf. Sure, we import around 30% (Figures you have to check because they change often) of Arab Oil.

However, the EU is total depended on ARAB OIL, near 80%.

The UK has her North Sea OIL but still imports a lot more than the US from Arab Land.

IRAQ was about OIL in the sense it was about saving the EMU"s ass.

This time, NATO is taking on the head roll.

By the way, this war is unconstitutional and a impeachable offense if congress follows up on, which I doubt cuz they have no balls.


And the IDIOT and CHIEF lies once again!

http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/262910/obama-no-us-forces-ground-libya-except-those-guys
 
Quote from sammyj:

Germany is not participating in this war nothing to gain by it except a black face

When DOES Germany participate? Why are they in NATO again?
 
Quote from endsongs:

I don't understand the purpose of your post. Are you saying only that gov't should plan ahead? I would say that all forms of gov't should do some long term planning.

It was just a spontaneous post that meant nothing.

I recently watched the Seinfeld episode when the kid calls Kramer a "commie!" when Kramer is playing Santa at the mall.
 
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