China don't believe in patents?

[Lights]

I didn't believe it at first either, but they're all validated. Prolly cos it conflicts with the western educational curriculum, which also claims Chris Columbus and Amerigo Vespucci discovered the Americas. Don't beLIEve.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Pointing_Chariot

Quote from Anthead:

Half the things listed by the OP weren't invented by the Chinese. Chariots? C'mon! That is beyond ridiculous.

Where did you get that list?

 

[Tracy McGreedy]

Big oil owns a technology patent that enables automobiles to get 80 miles per gallon using a paint roller type fuel feeder. Nope, we'll never see that one either.

Quote from trefoil:

If patents were the kind of awful scheme you claim it is, it would show up in the stifling of innovation in this country.
I don't see that happening at all. Since the late Nineties we've had a sustained increase in productivity, one that hasn't been recognized by anyone. Everyone thinks it was a spurt brought on by the tech boom of the late Nineties. I don't; I think it's a long-term change for the better. So, given that, there is no evidence at all that this weird patent bashing is based on anything other than delusion. Also, ideology. But I repeat myself.

 

[Tracy McGreedy]

There is a loophole to patent law, whereby the owner can utilize it into a new "machine" that incorporates that patent, and then patent that again, endlessly.

Quote from poyayan:

Patents try to strike a balance between the interest of the inventor and general public.

Typical a patent is valid for 17 years. I can't say whether this is fair or not.

On the other hand, copyright can be effective up to 120 years.

Now, I do think that it is not quite balance to have exclusive right on a song 10 times longer than a semiconductor patent.

As for the thread starter counting everything invented since the dawn of time, I might as well claim my ancestor invented fire and ask you to pay me.

Bottomline, if you want to pick on patents, I will pick on copyright first.

Also, you "Tracy McGreedy" seems get ticked off with every single criticism on China and ticked off about it. The way you respond is just making us look bad. So, quite the whining.

 

[trefoil]

Quote from Tracy McGreedy:

Big oil owns a technology patent that enables automobiles to get 80 miles per gallon using a paint roller type fuel feeder. Nope, we'll never see that one either.

I can honestly say I've never had this thought before: for some people, literacy is dangerous.
Seriously, TM, get out and live a little. Among the things you'll find out: people don't do things that are against their own economic interests. And, if something like what you say exists actually does, and (this is the important part, pay attention: remember, people don't do things that are against their own economic interests) it could be mass-produced so that the price of it wouldn't raise the price of an average car past the ability to pay of your average middle-class American, well, it would have been mass-marketed already.

 

[Thermactor]

Quote from Tracy McGreedy:

Big oil owns a technology patent that enables automobiles to get 80 miles per gallon using a paint roller type fuel feeder. Nope, we'll never see that one either.

My BS meter just pegged with that one.

Sorry, that invalidates everything else you've said too.

 

[Retired]

Quote from Anthead:

Half the things listed by the OP weren't invented by the Chinese. Chariots? C'mon! That is beyond ridiculous.

Where did you get that list?

He forgot to add kite, chess, ravioli, wok, and soy milk.

 

[Anthead]

Quote from Retired:

He forgot to add kite, chess, ravioli, wok, and soy milk.

Facetious, right? Chess was invented in India. Unless you are speaking of Chinese chess.

 

[11Blade]

Quote from trefoil:

Well then, you misunderstood.
My point was simply that if patents were standing in the way, periods of sustained high productivity would be impossible.
The US has higher rates of productivity growth than most other industrialized countries, after all. How you square that with an allegedly dysfunctional patent system, I have no idea. Perhaps you can enlighten me.

I had said it stifles innovation. A blockbuster change such as the transistor or DNA sequencing or mass production can easily explain mass jumps in productivity. Something usually revolutionary will create this effect. Revolutionary advances circumvent the patent system, incremental advances are often held back. (Drug discovery is a big one)

I remain in the camp that the patent system right now is broken. Incremental innovation with a shared knowledge base would go a lot farther than knowledge stored in silo's guarded by lawyers. The open source movement has proven that. I hope one day drug discovery becomes a community/open project. It will definitely improve the world. I also believe that pharmaceutical companies have depended too long on patent protection and tried too often to hit black swans, and it has only benefited the shareholders, executives and corporate coffers.

I am not a communist, I believe in the free market, patents are not a free market mechanism.

 

[Tracy McGreedy]

Crude oil would be at sub 50 if such a technology was mass produced. You missed the point.. so did the other guy. They are not mass produced because it is not in the interests of oil co's to have them available in the free market. This is an example of patents stifling innovation. They own a technology which will NEVER be manufactured.

Rank Country IQ estimate Rank Country IQ estimate Rank Country IQ estimate
23rd United States 98

Quote from trefoil:

And, if something like what you say exists actually does, and (this is the important part, pay attention: remember, people don't do things that are against their own economic interests) it could be mass-produced so that the price of it wouldn't raise the price of an average car past the ability to pay of your average middle-class American, well, it would have been mass-marketed already.

 

[S2007S]

Quote from jficquette:

Patents are to encourage innovation. Has nothing to do with class warfare or anything of the sort.

John

"To encourage innovation"


I hope you are joking.....