Chilean fascist kicks bucket

RedDuke · Dec 11, 2006

Quote from tradermaji:

Pinochet was a motherfucking monster. The world is better off with the him dead. It is sad that we had backed such monsters and the ghosts of the past are now haunting us. These animals like Pinochet, UBL etc are like coal... if you touch them when they are not burning you get dirt on your hands, you touch them when they are burning your get a burn. They are best cast aside and left alone.

Only the retards in our society consider that killer of Chile a great man...

True he killed people, but no other regime, even Nazi killed as many of its own people as communists.

Guys, soviets killing counts goes in MILLIONS, YES MILLIONS. Just collectivisations alone in 20s is responsible for 5-10 millions deaths.

And you calling Pinochet a monster.

tradermaji · Dec 11, 2006

Quote from RedDuke:

True he killed people, but no other regime, even Nazi killed as many of its own people as communists.

Guys, soviets killing counts goes in MILLIONS, YES MILLIONS. Just collectivisations alone in 20s is responsible for 5-10 millions deaths.

And you calling Pinochet a monster.

Yes, I am calling him a monster. He is as evil as the others who have killed the in the name of suppressing opposition. Stalin and Lenin were monsters too. It is sad that our tax dollars went to support this monster and that is what I have a problem with. Trying to lighten Pinochet's crime by giving examples of crimes committed by communists is not acceptable in my opinion.

RedDuke · Dec 11, 2006

Quote from tradermaji:

Yes, I am calling him a monster. He is as evil as the others who have killed the in the name of suppressing opposition. Stalin and Lenin were monsters too. It is sad that our tax dollars went to support this monster and that is what I have a problem with. Trying to lighten Pinochet's crime by giving examples of crimes committed by communists is not acceptable in my opinion.

Imagine for a second what would happen to Chile under communists. It would be the same type of killigs only at a much larger scale and ruined economy.

Unfortunately our world is not a pretty place in a lot of countries. Out of 2 evils a lesser one should be chosen.

tradermaji · Dec 11, 2006

Quote from RedDuke:

Imagine for a second what would happen to Chile under communists. It would be the same type of killigs only at a much larger scale and ruined economy.

Unfortunately our world is not a pretty place in a lot of countries. Out of 2 evils a lesser one should be chosen.

I do not agree with you about the killings. It is speculation. Do you think that logic will hold up in a court of law? Facts talk, speculation walks. Pinochet was pure evil and maybe the worse of the two evils. I am speculating that there have been more deaths in South and Central America because of meddling by CIA in the name of fighting commies.

RedDuke · Dec 11, 2006

Quote from tradermaji:

I do not agree with you about the killings. It is speculation. Do you think that logic will hold up in a court of law? Facts talk, speculation walks. Pinochet was pure evil and maybe the worse of the two evils. I am speculating that there have been more deaths in South and Central America because of meddling by CIA in the name of fighting commies.

You know, you are right, it is a pure speculation (what could have should have). Let's drop it.

Pekelo · Dec 11, 2006

Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

He fronted a coup widely thought to be CIA-backed

It is so widely thought, that today BBC reported this news as such....

Cesko · Dec 11, 2006

Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

Pinochet saved his country from communist oppression. He fronted a coup widely thought to be CIA-backed that tossed out Castro stooge Allende. Allende had invited large numbers of Cubans into Chile under the guise of assistance, but they clearly were the vanguard for a communist takeover. Luckily, in those days we had a CIA which was capable and not afraid to take action. Today, Chile would have been sentenced to decades of communist oppression and misery, similar to what Venezuela will experience.

The international left has always despised Pinochet with the special fervor they reserve for those who defeat communism. The great man, who should be ranked among Latin America's heroes, vacated his office and turned the country over to democracy, something his enemy Fidel will never do. In exchange, he was granted lifetime immunity but the craven leftists who run Chile reneged on that promise and tried to prosecute him. He was also subject to a despicable prosecution by an out of control Spanish magistrate, aided and abetted by the British government who held him under house arrest when he traveled there for medical treatment. That episode is testimony to why we should never agree to join the International Criminal Court, unless we want our democratically elected leaders persecuted by leftist kangeroo courts.

No doubt Pinochet's coup was brutal and some innocents were killed. That is unfortunate but pales in comparison to the brutal repression and murders perpetrated by communists, about which the international community is strangely silent. They reserve their hatred for those who support freedom and democracy and who are allies of the US.

Pinochet is responsible for probably the only one properly functioning country in SA. What's more human, few socialist scumbags dead (incl. alcoholic Allende) or country in disarray(Cuban way and far more people dead in a long run).

THANK YOU GENERAL FOR LIFELONG SERVICE OF FIGHTING A SOCIALIST SCUM WITH NO APOLOGOGIES.

Pekelo · Dec 11, 2006

Quote from Cesko:

Pinochet is responsible for probably the only one properly functioning country in SA.

If you really challenge me, I can do the exact math, but I would say at least 80% of SA is capitalist. So are you criticizing capitalism?

You see that is the beauty of democracy, if people want to be stupid, let them be. If they like nazism and vote for it, let them be nazist. If they want communism and they vote for it, let them be communist.

What would you call that crazy thing? Oh yes, democracy... Evil thing, ain't it?

tradermaji · Dec 11, 2006

Quote from Cesko:

Pinochet is responsible for probably the only one properly functioning country in SA.

Latin American Countries listed by GDP.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Latin_American_countries_by_GDP

Rank Country 2006 GDP
millions of US dollars
â World 44,168,157
â Latin America 2,823,173
1 Brazil 966,827
2 Mexico 811,282
3 Argentina 219,652
4 Venezuela 164,416
5 Chile 140,389
6 Colombia 129,384

Per Capita Income of countries around the world. Check it to find the Per Capita Income of Chile and compare it to other communist or leftist countries in that region.

http://www.finfacts.com/biz10/globalworldincomepercapita.htm

Chile 4930 5870 51
Venezuela, RB 4030 4810 59

(a couple of countries have a higher per capita income than Chile that are part of Latin America:
Antigua and Barbuda 10130 10920 35
Trinidad and Tobago 9070 10440 37 )

Population of Venezuela:26,749,000
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuela

Population of Chile:16,132,674
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chile

Looks like leftist Venezuela isn't doing that badly. They have oil and that is their source of wealth.

Alex_in_Oz · Dec 11, 2006

The Republicans don't care for democracy. They say they do but in reality they don't. It seems they don't have much respect for the DEMOCRATICALLY elected Allende. They have MUCH respect for a murduring dictator named Pinochet.
Democracy runs a poor second to ideology.