Chevy Volt takes 27 years before owners save money
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LOL That's exactly the problem. Everything you air on facebook or twitter is in the national record for any future employer, girl friend, girl friend's parents, police, IRS, government gestapo and anyone else with an interest to read. It's the damn stupidest thing I've ever heard of.
Although I have to admit that I was doing something online that needed me to have a facebook account so I opened one a couple years ago. I think I've looked at about 5 times and didn't put anything there that I didn't care if it was out there. It's been over a year since I've even been to facebook.
Dude, lots of things sound the way you want them when you drive a one way street like you do. It's called convenient, and it tends to work in your own little world.
The cars had a design problem that caused battery leakage in certain types of accidents. This leakage later led to a fire. End of story! Whether that was, or was not fixed (government claims are worthless) is up to the decision of the buyer. In this case, I am the buyer.
But even had I not had the main issue of buying a car from a company that took a government bailout, I still wouldn't buy the volt because of the past issues. Hell, buying the first version of a car is always a risky bet. Got it?
If you need it to be clearer, I suppose I can put it in a pop up book.
Again, I'm not telling you what to buy - you're trying to tell me what to buy. I'm telling you, in essence, to get lost.
Tsing, point for point, what about the video I posted.
When water is used to extinguish a lithium-ion battery fire the result is a violent explosion that spreads molten burning material far beyond the original radius of the chemical fire. Short of an actual explosion water exponentially intensifies the fire.
Lithium-ion batteries apparently do not contain any actual lithium metal content so my post earlier in this thread is incorrect even though the resultant fire is considered to be Class D (combustible metal). "Metal" fires will often burn hot enough to be able to strip the oxygen from CO2 and continue burning. They will also break down Halon and related agents into hydrogen chloride into other toxic compounds. Sodium Bicarbonate (Class BC dry chemical) and ammonium monophosphate (class ABC dry chemical) extingushers have little to no effect. A Class D Dry Powder fire extinguisher is needed and they are very expensive.
GM has had to train certain metropolitan fire departments so that they don't pull up and start spraying water on a Chevrolet Volt:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/12/b...xamine-electric-car-batteries-after-fire.html
The use of lithium-ion in vehicles is irresponsible and unnecessary. The GM EV-1 did quite well on conventional lead-acid batteries even though GM sought to kill the EV-1 technology because it would have destroyed the profit margin they enjoy producing and selling internal combustion engines.
The Volt design is pure folly and intensely dishonest given that the vehicle was marketed as an electric vehicle with onboard auxiliary generator. The Volt is a Hybrid and a very poor one. General Motors may never voluntarily produce a vehicle that does not have a mechanical connection between the internal combustion engine and the drive wheels so that the vehicle may be propelled by internal combustion, there just isn't a healthy profit margin in it for them.
Your info is either coming from Japan or Faux News. That is a blatent lie.
How much fuel is wasted because of POS Prius' on the highway being in everyone's way? Those POS's are always in the middle lane traveling at a steady 10 mph under the speed limit. Everyone else has to slow down, hit the brakes, move around them, etc.
Now compare the efficiency of a gasoline engine to that of a power plant. Now move the power from the power plant through the grid to your home. Now move it from your home to your car. Now move the car. That electric car is about 35% efficient while the gasoline engine is around 85% efficient. You're killing the planet and feeding terrorists by driving an electric car so long as the electricity comes from the grid.
GM is alive and Osama Bin Laden is dead. Got a problem with that? Move to Africa. And if you don't support American industry, GTFO of America.
Yes sir.
I never really paid attention to the volt issue, but this thread has been going on for awhile, and when Ed put this interview on, well I have questions now.
The GM guy is an unabashed conservative, but he feels that conservatives are beating up on one of the best engineered cars in the world simply because of Obama. He wants viewers to look at the car and leave the politics behind.
One nice quote of his is that a bunch of engineers wearing cheap suits from Detroit just out engineered "German engineering"
As you know the words German engineering carry a lot of weight int he car world. I am simply asking you, respectfully, what problems you find with what this fellow is saying.