Chevy Volt a lemon for GM. Current administration makes sour lemonade.

Quote from GTS:

After Record Sales, Chevy Volt Production Will Resume One Week Early

1. Selling under 3K units hardly meets GM's original goals.

2. Obama hiked the Federal Subsidy for the Chevy Volt up to $10K. That's right, the American taxpayer is bribing wealthy liberals to buy a car that catches on fire, among other foibles. Some States, like Colorado, have additional subsidies on top of the federal one.
 
Quote from bone:

1. Selling under 3K units hardly meets GM's original goals.

2. Obama hiked the Federal Subsidy for the Chevy Volt up to $10K. That's right, the American taxpayer is bribing wealthy liberals to buy a car that catches on fire, among other foibles. Some States, like Colorado, have additional subsidies on top of the federal one.
When you talk with your clients, do you share similiar inaccurate statements as the ones you make here?
 
Quote from bone:

"... Some States, like Colorado, have additional subsidies on top of the federal one.

Maybe I should buy a Volt.

I live in Colorado... and for once I'd like to GET a federal subsidy rather than paying for everybody else's.
 
Quote from Sandybestdog:

When you talk with your clients, do you share similiar inaccurate statements as the ones you make here?

Well, one thing I would never do with a client is to make things personal. I would welcome any client criticisms where he stated facts which were contrary to what I knew or believed to be fact.
 
Quote from Sandybestdog:

When you talk with your clients, do you share similiar inaccurate statements as the ones you make here?

26 year ROI on the Volt......LOL
 
Quote from bone:

Well, one thing I would never do with a client is to make things personal. I would welcome any client criticisms where he stated facts which were contrary to what I knew or believed to be fact.

Common sense thinking. Why do people by any type of car? Why buy a Maserati instead of a Ferrari? All sorts of reasons, same with the Volt. I do think GM could have done a better job with the Volt, especially after the years and money the spent on earlier Electric vehicles.
 
Quote from bone:

1. Selling under 3K units hardly meets GM's original goals.

2. Obama hiked the Federal Subsidy for the Chevy Volt up to $10K. That's right, the American taxpayer is bribing wealthy liberals to buy a car that catches on fire, among other foibles. Some States, like Colorado, have additional subsidies on top of the federal one.

Do you want to give a more accurate description of what you mean by "catching on fire"? Because repeating half-truths is almost like lying.
 
Quote from futurecurrents:

Do you want to give a more accurate description of what you mean by "catching on fire"? Because repeating half-truths is almost like lying.

Go ahead and Google NHTSA safety test on the Volt - you know, the car whose battery pack caught on fire post crash-test while it was sitting in a government storage facility.

But reinforcing the battery pack and and making a change to the On-Star warning system is supposed to fix it.

Then go ahead and Google the Obama administration coverup and internal whitewash to exponge the NHTSA data.
 
Quote from bone:

Go ahead and Google NHTSA safety test on the Volt - you know, the car whose battery pack caught on fire post crash-test while it was sitting in a government storage facility.

But reinforcing the battery pack and and making a change to the On-Star warning system is supposed to fix it.

Then go ahead and Google the Obama administration coverup and internal whitewash to exponge the NHTSA data.

Right. A month or so after the crash they left cracked batteries in a vehicle and they caught fire. After they should have been removed like they do with gas tanks after a crash for the same reason. And one in a test later. The cars did not catch fire under any other circumstance. They do not spontaneously combust while driving down the road.

There was no cover-up. The republicans have problems with the whole GM bailout thing so they got hysterical again with conspiracy theories.

The whole thing is much ado about nothing. The pubs just need to face it. The bailout was a good move. Government can do good. Hybrid/electric cars are the future and are absolutely needed.
 
Quote from wilburbear:

From an email I received -

The Dirty Little Secret Behind The New Chevy Volt:



Patrick Michaels is a senior fellow in Environmental Studies at the Cato Institute and the editor of the forthcoming Climate Coup: Global Warming's Invasion of our Government and our Lives, as well as the author of several other books on global warming.



His Forbes column on the Chevy Volt is a case study in the nexus between big government corruption and big business subsidies. Michaels briefly recaps the consumer fraud in which GM has touted the Volt as an all-electric mass production vehicle on the supposed basis of which its sales receive a $7,500 taxpayer subsidy, and it is still overpriced and unmarketable.



Michaels notes that "sales are anemic: 326 in December, 321 in January, and 281 in February." Do you see a trend here? Michaels adds that GM has announced a production run of 100,000 cars in the first two years, and asks what appears to be a rhetorical question: "Who is going to buy all these cars?"



But wait! Keep hope alive! There is a positive answer to the question. Jeffrey Immelt's GE will buy a boatload of those uneconomic GM cars. Here the case study opens onto the inevitable political angle: Recently, President Obama selected General Electric CEO Jeffrey Immelt to chair his Economic Advisory Board. GE is also awash in windmills waiting to be subsidized so they can provide unreliable, expensive power. Consequently, and soon after his appointment, Immelt announced that GE will buy 50,000 Volts in the next two years, or half the total produced.



Assuming the corporation qualifies for the same tax credit, we (you and me) just shelled out $375,000,000 to a company to buy cars that no one else wants, so that GM will not tank and produce even more cars that no one wants. And this guy is the chair of Obama's Economic Advisory Board?



Michaels includes this hilarious detail in his case study: In a telling attempt to preserve battery power, the car's heater is exceedingly weak. Consumer Reports tests averaged a paltry 25 miles of electric-only running, in part because it was testing in cold Connecticut. (The GM engineer at the Auto Show said cold weather would have little effect.) It will be interesting to see what the Volt's range is on a hot, traffic-jammed summer day, when the air conditioner will really tax the batteries. When the gas engine came on, Consumer Reports got about 30 miles to the gallon of premium fuel; which, in terms of additional cost of high-test gas, drives the effective mileage closer to 27 mpg. A conventional Honda Accord, which seats 5 (instead of the Volt's 4), gets 34 mpg on the highway, and costs less than half of what CR paid, even with the tax break.



The story of the GM Volt deserves a place in the Harvard Business School curriculum....but of course, it won't. It's a classic tale of the GOVERNMENT deciding what the public needs, not the marketplace. What is one of the reasons for this? Why, to keep the UAW in business of course, because Obama owes them for his election. Starting to make sense yet?

nice info sir.. this is good thread...
I've learned of this a lot
 
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