The plug in Prius Hybrid is the way to go and will kill the Volt.
Chevy Volt a lemon for GM. Current administration makes sour lemonade.
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"Patrick Michaels is a senior fellow in Environmental Studies at the Cato Institute and the editor of the forthcoming Climate Coup: Global Warming's Invasion of our Government and our Lives, as well as the author of several other books on global warming."
The Cato Institute is a libertarian think tank headquartered in Washington, D.C. It was founded in 1977 by Edward H. Crane, who remains president and CEO, and Charles Koch, chairman of the board and chief executive officer of the conglomerate Koch Industries, Inc., the second largest privately held company by revenue in the United States.[3][4]
And Patrick Michaels has next to no credibility among real climate scientists. He is also bought by the fossil fuel industry.
" Among the scientists who testified before this Committee on the issue of climate change in the last Congress, Pat Michaels was the only one to dismiss the need to act on climate change ... Dr. Michaels may have provided misleading information about the sources of his funding and his ties to industries opposed to regulation of emissions responsible for climate change."[14]
So if you like to listen to highly biased,fossil-fuel funded sources, he and the Cato Institute are the ones.
The Cato Institute is a libertarian think tank headquartered in Washington, D.C. It was founded in 1977 by Edward H. Crane, who remains president and CEO, and Charles Koch, chairman of the board and chief executive officer of the conglomerate Koch Industries, Inc., the second largest privately held company by revenue in the United States.[3][4]
And Patrick Michaels has next to no credibility among real climate scientists. He is also bought by the fossil fuel industry.
" Among the scientists who testified before this Committee on the issue of climate change in the last Congress, Pat Michaels was the only one to dismiss the need to act on climate change ... Dr. Michaels may have provided misleading information about the sources of his funding and his ties to industries opposed to regulation of emissions responsible for climate change."[14]
So if you like to listen to highly biased,fossil-fuel funded sources, he and the Cato Institute are the ones.
You're right, I was. The check must still be in the mail because I haven't gotten it yet.
In it's first 3 years in production, the Prius had total sales just over 30k. How much would you expect the Volt to have in it's first? The battery pack in the Volt is much more substantial as well. The Volt has the highest customer satisfaction rating of any vehicle out right now. You must have a strange definition of epic failure as the facts seem to say the opposite.
But by all means carry on. Just don't be jealous when your neighbor gets one and talks about how he went 6 months on one tank of gas.
Man, the thought of that must give the oil cos. nightmares.
More AGW tripe from ET's village idiot. You've taken the crown from tradingjournals. Religious fanaticism belongs in the Politics and Religion forum.
I've wanted a plug-in electric car for years. But then GM took taxpayer money in a bailout. Then the Volt designers started lying about the Volt's design. It is not a pure electric with onboard generator. The gas engine can propel the car making it a hybrid and not a very good one. The whole thing is a lie.
But then it got worse. The safety of the design was grossly compromised to save on production costs leaving it subject to spontaneous combustion. They started producing numbers of vehicles that far exceeded demand. The dealers added a huge local premium on the price despite the lack of demand.
Then GM lied in a tv commericial claiming it had paid back the government bailout money 100%. Totally untrue.
Personally I will never buy a GM product for the rest of my life. I buy Fords for daily use and hauling. Got a couple of old Porsches for fun but I'm really a Ford guy thanks to Barrack Obama.
And yet everything I wrote is true.
Let me spell it out to you since you seem unable to connect dots due to your partisan hysteria, irrationality and general stupidity.
Big Oil/Koch Bros/Cato Institute/Fox News.....don't want electric cars or fuel efficiency thus negative propaganda about them and anything to do with green tech.
Let me spell it out to you since you seem unable to connect dots due to your partisan hysteria, irrationality and general stupidity.
Big Oil/Koch Bros/Cato Institute/Fox News.....don't want electric cars or fuel efficiency thus negative propaganda about them and anything to do with green tech.
You're a religious fanatic. That is clear for all to see. You are particularly unconvincing and your Pope, Al Gore, is a "crazed sex poodle". Your beliefs are as flawed as your trading. You might get more traction over at the Huffington Post but you'll just get hammered here.
Now about this car, why on earth would they build 100,000 of them? Maybe the government can force the USPS to buy a fleet of them, something like that?
If the car cost about $18k they would probably sell quite a few more of them but for $40k you can get a serious vehicle. There is no way the Volt can compete in that price bracket.
The Prius is a nice little car. They are *everywhere* out here on the west coast. Toyota is honest about calling it a hybrid. As another poster pointed out they are going to offer a plug-in model. I would like an electric car that was simple electric motor with onboard generator, not a hybrid. Nissan has the Leaf but I haven't taken a close look at it yet.
Your points are certainly valid in not wanting to buy a GM product because they took bailout money. But you can't say GM is a bad company and therefore the Volt is a bad product. The new Prius plug in is basically the same concept.
I am unsure though how you are saying they lied about the Volt. How was the safety compromised to save on production costs? There has been no "spontaneous combustion" either in testing or real life driving. GM is doing a voluntary reinforcing of the battery case to just say they did something. The NHTSA has closed it's investigation and behind the scenes everybody knows that they screwed up the testing by not following standard protocol. The original model is perfectly safe. I have heard of at least two (one of the mine) customers that have been in high speed accidents in Volts and walked away perfectly unharmed.
You can guys can say I'm a troll all you want, but these are just the facts. You are entitled to not like the car. But what are you trying to prove by spreading lies about it?