Chevy Volt a lemon for GM. Current administration makes sour lemonade.

Quote from Rehoboth:
What on earth are you talking about? Most of this discussion is either about the battery/warranty or the cost effectiveness of this car. Yes there is the gm=shit talk, but besides that people have very good points which you cant answer; which is fine, you answer what you dont know. So what points are you saying? Because I really want this car to work, but as a representative, you are doing a terrible job.
The other guy said "brilliant fellas.. argue with a car salesman..." He didn't say anything of worth at all, just some more GM trash talk. Like I said typical ET.

Now I'll admit, I don't know the exact answer as to the battery degrading and when that might be covered under warranty, but please give me one point that I have not answered?
 
Quote from newguy05:

Explain this to a potential chevy customer first:

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=3233331#post3233331

Window get stuck ok, AC broke fine, transmission goes bad tough luck. Steering wheel falls over while going 65MPH. And this is from the "new and improved" GM. I think the chinese BYD engineers are laughing their ass off.

Just admit you are working for a dead company that's the laughingstock of this country and move on.
Very simple

http://online.wsj.com/mdc/public/page/2_3022-autosales.html#autosalesC

Friday, July 01, 2011
Top 20 vehicles, current month's sales

Ford F - Series PU 49,618
Chevrolet Silverado PU 32,579
Chevrolet Cruze 24,896
Chevrolet Malibu 23,737
Ford Escape 22,274
Ford Focus 21,385
Toyota Camry / Solara 21,375
Dodge Ram PU 21,362
Ford Fusion 20,808
Hyundai Elantra 19,992
Nissan Altima 19,534
Toyota Corolla / Matrix 18,872
Hyundai Sonata 18,644
Chevrolet Equinox 17,954
Honda Civic 17,485
Volkswagen Jetta 17,105
Chevrolet Impala 16,325
Honda Accord 15,712
Honda CR-V 15,493
GMC Sierra PU 12,377
 
Quote from StonewallJ:

This is the first ever trading thread I have read with multiple GM truck fans. I hope you need a truck for work b/c otherwise there is no reason to buy one. My first car was a Pontiac Grand Prix GTP and I learned fast that sadly the USA, the industrial power that won WWII, now makes sh*tty automotive products. If you want quality go German. As an American not proud to say it, but its true. The unions destroyed our auto industry.

Oh no they didn't. The unions gave us 5-day work weeks. And weekends. And an end to child labor. God bless the unions. You should thank them.

If you have a boat and/or rent houses... you need a truck. The new, new body style, GM. It's a winner. I see them everywhere. Even if you had a crappy one, back in the 1980's... the stuff now doesn't even compare...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Lg4gGk53iY
 
Quote from BSAM:
LOL...Some test, somewhere. Big deal.

Thirty-four years, Mr. Magic. Thirty-four years! Now that's impressive!
Keep in mind that GM sells the same truck under two different names - Silverado and Sienna. I really don't care about bashing Ford, they are putting out some really good products.
 
Quote from Sandybestdog:

Keep in mind that GM sells the same truck under two different names - Silverado and Sienna. I really don't care about bashing Ford, they are putting out some really good products.

Hmmm...Perhaps you meant "Sierra", since "Sienna" is a Toyota minivan. Maybe your dealer carries Toyotas also? Otherwise, thanks for your honesty concerning Ford.
 
Quote from BSAM:
Hmmm...Perhaps you meant "Sierra", since "Sienna" is a Toyota minivan. Maybe your dealer carries Toyotas also? Otherwise, thanks for your honesty concerning Ford.
Yes sorry, I meant Sierra. The truth is almost any car you buy these days is a good one. It's really just about your preference. But it seems Chevy, Ford, Hyundai, and Subaru are really leading the pack. When somebody comes in to drive a Cruze, I ask them what else they are considering. Usually before they answer, I say the Focus and Elantra, right? They give me a weird look and ask me how did I know. I've lost a few deals to them, but I'm sure I have swiped a few as well. It's funny, they never mention Honda or Toyota. My dealership also sells Honda's. It's really no comparison between the two. Mr Opportunity can keep knocking, but it seems nobody's home.
 
Quote from Sandybestdog:

Yes sorry, I meant Sierra. The truth is almost any car you buy these days is a good one. It's really just about your preference. But it seems Chevy, Ford, Hyundai, and Subaru are really leading the pack. When somebody comes in to drive a Cruze, I ask them what else they are considering. Usually before they answer, I say the Focus and Elantra, right? They give me a weird look and ask me how did I know. I've lost a few deals to them, but I'm sure I have swiped a few as well. It's funny, they never mention Honda or Toyota. My dealership also sells Honda's. It's really no comparison between the two. Mr Opportunity can keep knocking, but it seems nobody's home.

I don't know if you are in what I would call a major market, but if those Honda's aren't selling like hotcakes, perhaps you're not in a large market. Don't say if you don't want to...(I wouldn't.) Or, I missed it, if you already did.

When you say "it's really no comparison between the two", you mean that you sell a lot more Chevys than Hondas. Is this correct?
 
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