Cheap, 'safe' drug kills most cancers

Quote from ElCubano:

there is no evidence much of the precription drugs out there work and we take them by the boat load...cuz big pharma and their deceptive marketing tells us; so hey it must be true...
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Exactly, can anyone here quote the test guidelines for a new drug's release?

I cant, but i read the entire screed of fda guidelines once, plus all pertaining legislation regarding that august body and its sweeping powers.
Perhaps i took some pharmaceuticals in higher than prescribed doses in the meantime, or because of reading it, or maybe the guidelines just make no sense at all.

The average person will never read such weighty tomes in there life , and if they did, they would likely kick the bucket from shock, disgust or similiar.

Its a win-win for pharma.
Yes, there far, far worse than you thought-read and be merry.

And thats just the FDA.



Hand me the prozac.........
please big pharma, give me some prozac.....ill be good..
 
My view is in the middle on this. I have some so called (maybe) pre cancerous spots on my chest I'm getting removed. I'm not going the natural route and trust rubbing some herb on it or upping my vit C. But on the other hand I take my cod liver oil, magnesium, mult, saw palmetto, drink tea and started adding cocoa powder to my coffee. And a few time a year I take IP6 for cancer prevention (hopefully). And when I got strep a couple of months ago I went to the doctor and to get antibiotics. I don't think you can go all or nothing on health treatment, you have to look at both sides and combine the best evidence of both and reject the ones that don't work on both sides. Some of what is conventional treatment today will be outdated and misguided in the future and some of the far out alternative medical treatment will become mainstream. I try to read and stay ahead because it takes decades for traditional medicine to change.
 
Any bit of common sense can get you a general idea of cancer and how it destroys the body. Your body is PHUKKIN AMAZING!!! It can repair itself more efficiently than any other lifeform. Hell, most American's diets mainly consist of high fructose corn syrup and hydrogenated soybean oil yet we still live to be as old as we are. That is a miracle within itself.

An alkaline environment does GREATLY reduce your likelihood of getting cancer. However, I've said it before and I'll say it again. Lifestyle determines where you are going, genetics determine how fast you get there. If you eat like shit and don't give your body the nutrients and vitamins it needs to repair itself and stave off illness, you're going to die, whether it be from a cold or cancer.

The cure to cancer is simply giving your body the nutrients it needs to destroy the cancerous cells. THe soil isn't nearly as nutrient-dense today and there is a great need for a multi-vitamin. Ingest some quality unsaturated fats and a quality protein source like cottage cheese (This 'cure' for cancer was made famous by Dr. Ludwig) and your body has what it needs to live on to fight another day.

We are all scared and live in fear of the unknown... What if there's nothing we can do about cancer? What if there is no God?? What if??? The fact is is that your mind will kill you quicker than any disease. If you think you are beat you already are. When you are depressed your body releases many catabolic agents that wreck havoc on your body. Don't complicate health. KISS..

I don't even want to get into the lipitor, radiation treatment, etc high cost care. It is more profitable to our economy to keep you barely alive than it is to have you healthy or dead. Follow the money and you will find the truth.

Watching The Money Masters really opened my eyes even more. I am not naive enough to believe ALL of it.. It does, however, make a great argument, and really shed some light on the lengths of which some will go for a few dollars.
 
Quote from sprstpd:

I put more trust in prescription drugs that have gone through some sort of approval process as compared to advice spouted by "natural-based" nutjobs that have no scientific basis at all.
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there is the dilema...it doesnt get tested any further after it gets approved and the approval process is questionable to say the least..not to mention that while the prescription drug may not even be working it is certainly adding stress to your body in other ways..in the form of side effects..which over the long run may be causing you to get sicker...like i said there is lots of money in the form of marketing and lobbying and greasing the right hands which has played a major role in the way we think about prescription drugs that may just not be the case..all I am saying is for yoor own good you should educate urself a little more.. Just look at VIOXX...there is opinons that the drug compnay new ahead of time that it would kill over 100k people and yet it got approved and look what happened...just open ur mind to other opinions..this inlcudes the food that we ingest...peace
 
Good discussion guys, there have been some nice posts made in the last few days.

I know that most people in this forum don't agree with me on these matters but I do have some credibility in the form of a PhD in Medicinal Chemistry and 10 years in the pharmaceutical industry. It seems that most people are very divisive between natural and traditional medicine. I would point out that the line between the two is in fact somewhat blurry - why? - well I'm not sure if you know but over 75% of the new drugs approved for use in the US in the last 25 years can have their origins traced back to a natural source. That is to say that the original lead compound for that particular drug came from a natural source such as a plant or organism. Nature is amazingly intricate and it provides scientist with wonderful scaffolds with which to build new treatments. Why the pills then? - it is not just so that a pharma company can patent, market, make money etc. it is because purity and dosage are very important for achieving the desired response. It is also due to availabilty - did you know that the common cancer drug Taxol was originally isolated from the bark of the Pacific Yew tree and that if the natural source was used for treatment, each patient would require several acres of land covered in the Yew tree (not to mention that the harvesting process destroys the tree). This is obviously not practical.

As has been pointed out, the human immune system is an incredible healer and I cannot stress enough that PREVENTION IS KING. AS BGP and ElCubano and others have touched on, our diets, lifestyles, exposures etc. have all deteriorated over time and these factors are undoubltedly responsible for many of the conditions that we are facing today. So my message is to embrace living a natural lifestyle but if you do develop a disease do not turn your back on medicine.
 
Quote from Matt24SPFL:

I don't even want to get into the lipitor, radiation treatment, etc high cost care. It is more profitable to our economy to keep you barely alive than it is to have you healthy or dead. Follow the money and you will find the truth.
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This MATT guy is on the money...lipitor is the biggest most profitable drug out there it is a money making machine that may in fact be causing you to get sicker .... another marketing ploy by big pharma to make us belive that cholesterol is bad....
 
Quote from BeakerBoy:

Good discussion guys, there have been some nice posts made in the last few days.

I know that most people in this forum don't agree with me on these matters but I do have some credibility in the form of a PhD in Medicinal Chemistry and 10 years in the pharmaceutical industry. It seems that most people are very divisive between natural and traditional medicine. I would point out that the line between the two is in fact somewhat blurry - why? - well I'm not sure if you know but over 75% of the new drugs approved for use in the US in the last 25 years can have their origins traced back to a natural source. That is to say that the original lead compound for that particular drug came from a natural source such as a plant or organism. Nature is amazingly intricate and it provides scientist with wonderful scaffolds with which to build new treatments. Why the pills then? - it is not just so that a pharma company can patent, market, make money etc. it is because purity and dosage are very important for achieving the desired response. It is also due to availabilty - did you know that the common cancer drug Taxol was originally isolated from the bark of the Pacific Yew tree and that if the natural source was used for treatment, each patient would require several acres of land covered in the Yew tree (not to mention that the harvesting process destroys the tree). This is obviously not practical.

As has been pointed out, the human immune system is an incredible healer and I cannot stress enough that PREVENTION IS KING. AS BGP and ElCubano and others have touched on, our diets, lifestyles, exposures etc. have all deteriorated over time and these factors are undoubltedly responsible for many of the conditions that we are facing today. So my message is to embrace living a natural lifestyle but if you do develop a disease do not turn your back on medicine.
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I think it is only about the patent..if it isnt patentable it wont get funding for research from big pharma ( there is no money in it) .meaning that they dont care if there is a natural unpatentable way to cure it they only care if it can be patentable which may not be the best way ...capiche??

and yes "prevention is king"..the only thing is that most people will not make the change from the lifestyle we are used to until prevention is behind us and they are sick and cant find a drug to cure them..then and only then is when people look to nature..it is like the guy who goes to jail and now is when he finds God..because everyone in jail goes thru the born again thingy..:D

hey i am just as bad as the next guy..but i am going to make the transition which will or might take a year or so...
 
Quote from Matt24SPFL:

Ingest some quality unsaturated fats and a quality protein source like cottage cheese (This 'cure' for cancer was made famous by Dr. Ludwig) and your body has what it needs to live on to fight another day.

What if there is no God?? What if???
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Would you , please, expand on Dr Ludwig's cure for cancer ?

And BTW there is no God as presented to us by all churches.

Thanks,
 
Quote from Hombre:

Would you , please, expand on Dr Ludwig's cure for cancer ?

And BTW there is no God as presented to us by all churches.

Thanks,
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Think he meant Budwig. He says organic flax seed oil & cottage cheese eaten together cures cancer.
Good luck with that 'cure' my all natural friends.
*stifled chuckle*
 
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