catholic church: republican policies are immoral.

Quote from Wallet:

No, but in the same fashion he can't make you do anything, only tempt, it's untimely your decision. God will intervene some day, but when that day comes, no one gets second chances.

Great movie on this called Constantine.

Nice piece of work. Fictional, but very nice. Almost makes one think.:)
 
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I wonder what Jesus would say about priests raping children and the church covering it up for decades?
Plenty of shit in everyones game. When it comes to judgement the church has lost all cred.

+1

But, in fairness the bible does allude to the fact that the true church will only be called during the tribulation.
 
Quote from RCG Trader:

Great movie on this called Constantine.

Nice piece of work. Fictional, but very nice. Almost makes one think.:)

Constantine with Keanu Reeves...? Yeah saw it... Pretty cool...!
 
Quote from CaptainObvious:

...The whole, he could but he won't argument just doesn't make sense, least not to me.
Epicurus: Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
 
Quote from CaptainObvious:

As powerful, and there's the rub for the true believers, but it's the only thing that makes sense if you believe in anything at all. The whole, he could but he won't argument just doesn't make sense, least not to me.

A bigger question would be if God was all knowing and all powerful, why would he need to create a group of people with flaws, and then create an advisary as powerful as himself, to tempt those people?

That is called setting one up to fail.

Further, how can a perfect being, create imperfection?
 
Quote from RCG Trader:

A bigger question would be if God was all knowing and all powerful, why would he need to create a group of people with flaws, and then create an advisary as powerful as himself, to tempt those people?

That is called setting one up to fail.

Further, how can a perfect being, create imperfection?

The Creator and Anti-Creator were born as one, split instantly, (the big bang) and have been at it ever since.
I see a universe where action and reactions are equal. Why would it not be so for these two entities?
I know it sounds or can be made to sound crazy, but then so can everything else.
 
Quote from CaptainObvious:

The Creator and Anti-Creator were born as one, split instantly, (the big bang) and have been at it ever since.
I see a universe where action and reactions are equal. Why would it not be so for these two entities?
I know it sounds or can be made to sound crazy, but then so can everything else.

Not at all, it corresponds to the halves of our brain..right vs. left.

I realize how powerful religion drives humanity, and humanity is my favorite subject, since I happen to be human. I have spent my life studying three things...religion, money, and women.

So this idea of yours corresponds to several spiritual concepts. People of Earth religions believe pretty much what you have stated. Good cannot exist without evil, and vice versa.
 
Quote from Brass:

Atheism is an absence of ideology. Absense of ideology is not an ideology.

http://atheism.about.com/od/atheism...eligion_Ideology_Belief_System_Philosophy.htm

Brains. Get some.

You're confusing nihilism... the belief in nothing... with atheism... Eitherway, both nihilism and atheism are ideologies.

An ideology is a set of ideas that constitute one's goals, expectations, and actions. An ideology can be thought of as a comprehensive vision, as a way of looking at things (compare worldview), as in several philosophical tendencies (see Political ideologies), or a set of ideas proposed by the dominant class of a society to all members of this society (a "received consciousness" or product of socialization). The main purpose behind an ideology is to offer either change in society, or adherence to a set of ideals where conformity already exists, through a normative thought process. Ideologies are systems of abstract thought applied to public matters and thus make this concept central to politics. Implicitly every political or economic tendency entails an ideology whether or not it is propounded as an explicit system of thought. It is how society sees things.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideology

Is there an idea behind it...? Yes... Are you trying to get people to follow it...? Yes... ...Well then it's an ideology...!
 
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