Casting Call for Fim Documentary

[MarkBrown]

Quote from quantsteve:

Mark,
Does Crabel manage the money within a "hedge fund" fee arrangement (eg 2%/20%)?

Or a flat fee of assets managed (eg 3%)?

i know one of his clients i will ask but i think wait i will just call and ask now, 2 and 20 yes, and has one called 2 plus which is long term he does not charge a mgt fee but charges 25 percent fee.

wow update he has a wide variety of programs that start at 2 and 20 and go up from there he has a 4 and 20 and a 2 and 30 and some others but only one is no mgt fee the long term one which is just strait 25. i am getting documents latter today which will show everything, where the money is at and all the trades and various programs etc.

 

[Trend Following]

I have had many contacts based on my initial post to this thread. If you have an interest we are aiming to have all shooting wrapped by Dec 20.

 

[bathrobe]

Any idea when it will appear in theaters?

 

[Trend Following]

Quote from bathrobe:

Any idea when it will appear in theaters?

Spring/Summer 08, but very few documentaries get wide release in theaters.

 

[rollsafe]

Quote from Trend Following:

Thanks for the feedback, but you may want to more carefully analyze who is in that list.

Larry Hite....
google him...read his wikipedia article

 

[bearmountain]

Quote from Trend Following:

Spring/Summer 08, but very few documentaries get wide release in theaters.

Well please make it available for download via itunes.

 

[zdreg]

Quote from marketsurfer:

from willmott, i believe:


1983- Richard Dennis gives his famous seminars to floor brokers and traders alike. He advises them to look at the board a half hour after the open, and buy or sell whatever is furthest from the previous day's close.
1986- Monroe Trout resigns as an employee of Victor Niederhoffer, and sets out to apply the pattern and momentum lessons he has learned on the NYFE, to his own position trading.
1988- Mark Fisher starts his clearing firm on the NYMEX.
1989- Toby Crabel writes his book, "Day Trading with Short Term Price Patterns & Opening Range Breakout."
1993- Toby Crabel quits working for Victor Niederhoffer - like Monroe Trout and Roy Niederhoffer before him - and sets out to trade on his own.
2002- Toby Crabel, with nearly 300 different systems in production, finishes 10 years without a single losing year, with an 11% average annual return, with a maximum drawdown of 4.24% over the period, and with well over a billion dollars under management charging a 3% management fee.

2002- Toby Crabel, with nearly 300 different systems in production, finishes 10 years without a single losing year, with an 11% average annual return, with a maximum drawdown of 4.24% over the period, and with well over a billion dollars under management charging a 3% management fee.

not wishing to get an argument with makloda but is this considered to be an acceptable return. sounds barely acceptable in a nontaxable account and unacceptable return in a taxable account compared to a buy and hold account.

 

[Trend Following]

Quote from bearmountain:

Well please make it available for download via itunes.

Thanks for the feedback.

 

[MarkBrown]

Quote from zdreg:

2002- Toby Crabel, with nearly 300 different systems in production, finishes 10 years without a single losing year, with an 11% average annual return, with a maximum drawdown of 4.24% over the period, and with well over a billion dollars under management charging a 3% management fee.

not wishing to get an argument with makloda but is this considered to be an acceptable return. sounds barely acceptable in a nontaxable account and unacceptable return in a taxable account compared to a buy and hold account.

toby has over 4 billion now! and growing some of his programs are 11 million minimum to participate. i am soon financing my son who is a cta to replicate what toby is doing just pay homage to him. i often wish i had taken a more conservative approach to trading myself, but i would have not known what i know either. i often think what toby could have done with the resources i have been exposed to, he would have eclipsed the #1 spot of wealth without doubt.

an interesting note is that in 1993 toby was all but flat broke and about homeless. he had sold the keys to the kingdom yet he was not wealthy, no one would take what he sold then and do anything with it.

mb