Case Study Question

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Hello everyone, this is my first post. I’m a beginner novice learning about credit default swaps and relative value trades and I came across a case study with this explanation. I have spent hours trying to decipher this, but I am struggling. Please help.

“...putting a relative value trade will cost £15.5k over 6 months. £13k of the £15.5k can be attributed to roll down. In order to break even on this trade, the absolute price ratio needs to converge from the current level of 1.4 down to 1.32. Considering the current state of Y’s credit and looking at historical data, it is believed that the price ratio will reach 1.2 (ratio at just after issuance) resulting in 18k profit.”
Some Info: X-spread = 567, Y-spread = 403. Therefore spread ratio, 5.7:4 = 1.4:1

How has £18k been calculated? I’m sure it’s very simple, but I’d appreciate if someone could point it out to me.

Thank you very much. I hope I've posted in the correct place; apologies if this is not so.
 
Thanks everyone

Intradaybil, please tell me how you arrived at 17K.

Hook N. Sinker, please elaborate on the problem you mention as I’d be more than happy to explain any misinterpretations.

Martinhoul, what more information are you looking for? I’d be more than happy to look through the rest of the case study and provide.

SarahNGuyen, thank you; I will take you up on that offer!
 
Well thank you very much everyone! You have all been incredibly helpful and I leave satisfied with my dilemma solved.

If it isn't obvious, I am being sarcastic.

I came on here hoping the good community of Elite Trader might help me out, and apart from SarahNGuyen (who has forwarded me to the Maths guy, who still hasn't got back to me), you've all posted uselessly disparaging pretentious comments. What an absolute farce you lot are. :mad:
 
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Well thank you very much everyone! You have all been incredibly helpful and I leave satisfied with my dilemma solved.

If it isn't obvious, I am being sarcastic.

I came on here hoping the good community of Elite Trader might help me out, and apart from SarahNGuyen (who has forwarded me to the Maths guy, who still hasn't got back to me), you've all posted uselessly disparaging pretentious comments. What an absolute farce you lot are. :mad:
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This forum is for traders, it is not a finance tutoring service. People here do not have time to solve your homework problem for your midterm exam.
 
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Hello everyone, this is my first post. I’m a beginner novice learning about credit default swaps and relative value trades and I came across a case study with this explanation. I have spent hours trying to decipher this, but I am struggling. Please help.

“...putting a relative value trade will cost £15.5k over 6 months. £13k of the £15.5k can be attributed to roll down. In order to break even on this trade, the absolute price ratio needs to converge from the current level of 1.4 down to 1.32. Considering the current state of Y’s credit and looking at historical data, it is believed that the price ratio will reach 1.2 (ratio at just after issuance) resulting in 18k profit.”
Some Info: X-spread = 567, Y-spread = 403. Therefore spread ratio, 5.7:4 = 1.4:1

How has £18k been calculated? I’m sure it’s very simple, but I’d appreciate if someone could point it out to me.

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Hook N. Sinker, please elaborate on the problem you mention as I’d be more than happy to explain any misinterpretations.
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People that want to be understood, communicate clearly.

Sometimes people that wish to hide, hide by communicating in vague, complex, difficult to understand terms, such as:

“...putting a relative value trade will cost £15.5k over 6 months. £13k of the £15.5k can be attributed to roll down. In order to break even on this trade, the absolute price ratio needs to converge from the current level of 1.4 down to 1.32. Considering the current state of Y’s credit and looking at historical data, it is believed that the price ratio will reach 1.2 (ratio at just after issuance) resulting in 18k profit.”


When I notice someone communicating in a complex, difficult to understand way, I interpret their thinking as sloppy and not clear, likely to be faulty, and likely they are hiding something.

I avoid unclear thinkers, and associate with clear communicators.

My objective as a speculator is to make money, not to get tangled up in nonsense.
 
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Martinhoul, what more information are you looking for? I’d be more than happy to look through the rest of the case study and provide.
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If you still want the answer, you're gonna have to give me more info, I'm afraid... Doing it the simplistic way (with a few arbitrary assumptions) I am getting a PNL of arnd £20k plus. I can tell you what I am doing, as it's not exactly rocket engineering.
 
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