Cars Impervious to Wrecks

Look at simple comparables:

* NSANY: ~6
* F: lol
* TM: 8.35
* BYDDF: 49.10
* XKRX:005380 (Hyundai): 9.54

^^ thanks for your long post (short version)

why bother with TSLA or any North American auto company, the Japanese, followed by Koreans are tough to beat both in vehicles & stock plays
 
A buddy of mine just bought an F-150 this weekend. Brand spankin new. The one that is like 2 levels above the Raptor. We're talking an expensive truck here. He could care less but whatever.

So this thing has the electronics from hell. It even has a HUD of sorts. We're out driving this pig... and I'm all over all this superfluous bs... off the charts options.... (if there was ever a time to buy an extended warranty for real, buy one on this beast)... anyway... aside from some lane warning stuff that only works where lanes are well defined.... and closure rate warnings when a car stops ahead of you or a car that pulls out in front of you.... it seems to me this stuff is lightyears behind that which could actually be.

I think cars can be made wreck-proof. Or damn close.

Why am I writing this? Because say what you want, but TSLA is not a car company, they're a software company. I know they've had their mishaps, but when it comes down to data.... they know (AND OWN) more than anyone. Let me see an analyst attempt to put a price-tag on that. Its whatever the market will pay.

That stock was a steal a few weeks ago. If it ever drops like that again... bet the farm. Or bet it now.
That or... and I know its a dog but I believe in them too.... buy Ford stock. It's at $5 and it might go lower.... but I'm tellin' ya... something is gonna happen. GM, Chrysler/Fiat.... they all suck. Ford doesn't. Its a pig make no mistake, but soon enough... there's gonna be a merger between tech and old school car companies.

You can mark this post too.

Whatever.

Stumbled across this while looking for something else.
TSLA was (split adjusted) $162 at the time.
F was $5

What I said about the value of TSLA's data....
.... Cathy Woods just said the same thing last week.
Maybe she read my post.
:rolleyes:
 
Hardly wreck proof, you cannot control what other vehicles are doing.

Exactly. So that is why my vote goes to Subaru. There used to be an ad when they are showing a wreck and the voice over says: they lived. Life pro tip, not investment advice.

3 days ago in Florida 2 old geezers in a Cessna hit an SUV killing the small boy in the back seat. What kind of electronics can predict an attack from air??? Or a 18 wheeler T-boning you?
 
Exactly. So that is why my vote goes to Subaru. There used to be an ad when they are showing a wreck and the voice over says: they lived. Life pro tip, not investment advice.

3 days ago in Florida 2 old geezers in a Cessna hit an SUV killing the small boy in the back seat. What kind of electronics can predict an attack from air??? Or a 18 wheeler T-boning you?
More than 42,000 people died in car crashes in the U.S. last year. That's just a little less than a full 737 crashing every single day. Are we ever going to prevent the last 30 or even last 300 from dying? Probably not. That's most certainly not a reason not to do our utmost to stop the first 41,700 from dying is it? Nothing we do is "wreck proof" or "anything proof" but we can do a lot to make things very rare given today's tech and some will to make it happen. I'll settle for very rare with intense efforts to make more rare, just like I do when it comes to commercial aviation safety.
 
More than 42,000 people died in car crashes in the U.S. last year. ? Nothing we do is "wreck proof" or "anything proof" but we can do a lot to make things very rare given today's tech and some will to make it happen. I'll settle for very rare with intense efforts to make more rare, just like I do when it comes to commercial aviation safety.

I don't have a problem with making cars safer.
But I wish that automakers would make safety improvements standard, and make conveniences optional.

A lot of recent introductions have improved driving safety, like blind spot monitoring, lane change warnings, back up cameras, and automatic braking.

Those should be standard; leather seats, sunroofs, etc. should be optional. You should not have to buy the deluxe model of a car and be forced to pay $2k for an option package to get the new safety features.

Legislated improvements are why new cars have increased to $35K and people keep them for 10-12 years now.

There are a lot of changes can be made to a modern car to make them safer, but where do you stop to find a balance between what people can afford and what people actually need?
 
I don't have a problem with making cars safer.
But I wish that automakers would make safety improvements standard, and make conveniences optional.

A lot of recent introductions have improved driving safety, like blind spot monitoring, lane change warnings, back up cameras, and automatic braking.

Those should be standard; leather seats, sunroofs, etc. should be optional. You should not have to buy the deluxe model of a car and be forced to pay $2k for an option package to get the new safety features.

Legislated improvements are why new cars have increased to $35K and people keep them for 10-12 years now.

There are a lot of changes can be made to a modern car to make them safer, but where do you stop to find a balance between what people can afford and what people actually need?
You'd be surprised, cars are actually cheaper now than they were when I was a kid in the 80s, even when you ignore how much better they are. For example, when the Camry came out in '83 the MSRP was $9698. That's $25,600 in 2021 dollars. The 2021 Camry MSRP, $24,970. Of course that original Camry had a smaller engine, none of the options we consider standard now, a seatbelt was the only safety equipment, it was far less survivable in a crash due to significantly inferior design, and the paint would fade out, it would rust out, and the mechanical systems would fail to the point a 100,000 mile car was rare. So you're getting a far superior Camry today for an inflation adjusted lower price. Even if you pay the extra $2k for the safety package you're not paying much more than you were for a much crappier car back in '83.

Also, it depends on the car manufacturer. The vast majority of the safety features are standard in a Volvo, for example. In a capitalist system we need to vote with our dollars to the car companies that make safety features standard.
 
Also, it depends on the car manufacturer. The vast majority of the safety features are standard in a Volvo, for example. In a capitalist system we need to vote with our dollars to the car companies that make safety features standard.

Good points !
 
1973 Lincoln Continental. You will never die in that car. And you will take down buildings if you just let your hands off the steering wheel. The Honda/Toyota Prius ain't got nothing on that.

End of line.
 
1973 Lincoln Continental. You will never die in that car. And you will take down buildings if you just let your hands off the steering wheel. The Honda/Toyota Prius ain't got nothing on that.

End of line.

Unless it's sarcasm, you're completely ridiculous. Those didn't have the proper headrest, meaning even a slow speed hit will snap your neck and you're done. This is the most basic safety equipment you need.
 
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